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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
If you actually listen to the show, and I would not recommend people listen to it as intensely as I do, but you'll kind of tune out.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
It's like, wait, it's about a Ron Contra now?
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
How did this get involved?
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
She doesn't do a great job of explaining it.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
But Turning Point, I think they made this decision about two weeks ago.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
OK, you know, they were kind of like saying some of her stuff was accurate, some of her text messages and I think trying to mollify her.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And then there was this sense of, OK, enough's enough.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
We have this big conference coming up, America Fest at the end of this week.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Let's close the book here.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And so they sort of issued a challenge.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
They said, meet us in person in Phoenix and we're going to have a showdown over Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories.
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And she said, no.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And I think, you know, it kind of seemed like she was wimping out, but somehow she managed to broker this sort of in-person private meeting with Erica Kirk.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
So I think ultimately she, at least from this round, has sort of emerged the victor.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Yeah, that's right.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I mean, I think on one hand, you have people who are really and again, I think a lot of it comes back to Israel.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
You have people who are really sort of staunchly pro Israel, often Jewish themselves.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
So people like Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, and they are ardent Candace haters.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Then you have people who I think are less tied to Israel as an issue, and are maybe willing to sort of
The Bulwark Podcast
Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Brooke a little, maybe hosted anti-Semite on their show, like in the case of Tucker Carlson with Nick Fuentes.