Will Sommer

I guess the family man stuff is over.

It's a very it's a very twisted community.

All these kind of right wing celebs.

You know, I do think it will.

I mean, I think in particular, Sarah Stock was, I mean, again, this is a woman who was blessed by the Pope.

I mean, real kind of like trad ostensibly, although she also had this kind of like influencer YouTube career.

So, you know, not exactly that trad.

But, you know, I do think it's suggested, certainly I've seen other young right-wing women on the internet saying,

wait a minute, maybe things are a little more complex.

Maybe I shouldn't be rushing out to get married by 21 and become a homemaker.

Maybe I need to sort of live my own life first.

Because I think this has been kind of a disaster for trads in general.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I think this is what interests me about this.

I think all this talk about like gender roles or what the ideal masculinity is or what a marriage should be, because then when you look often, what are these people's marriages like?

What are they what are they up to?

And it's not just like imperfect.

It's like a horror show.

You know, I mean, this audio came out of Elijah Schaefer berating his wife.

I mean, we saw this happen before with Steven Crowder, the very prominent podcaster, you know, yelling at his own very pregnant wife.