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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I don't believe the story that Tyler Robinson did it or that the FBI's official narrative.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And so for three months now, she's been spinning these conspiracy theories that increasingly were implicating Turning Point USA, suggesting that specific people on Charlie's staff had betrayed him.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And I think we're also suggesting that Erica Kirk was involved.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
You know, she she kind of does a lot of insinuations, but basically that there was this grand plot and that everyone around Charlie Kirk was involved.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And it was starting to, I think, damage Turning Point's brand.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Everyone was saying, you know, certainly online, whenever they would post kind of some milquetoast Turning Point thing about how great Trump is, people would say, you know, hey, you you murdered Charlie Kirk.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
So, you know, it was becoming a real problem for them.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Yeah, I think that's right on.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I mean, Candace Owens is extremely anti-Semitic.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
She has a history.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I mean, you know, I mentioned the Hitler stuff.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
I mean, she has a history of, you know, she's talked about Jews drinking children's blood, done blood libel stuff.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
She's very critical of Israel and American support to Israel.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
But it goes way beyond that as well.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And I think you're right.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
That's kind of the key fault line.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
This conspiracy theory, I think, really got going a week or two after Charlie Kirk's death when she started saying, well, you know, the donors, the pro-Israel donors to Turning Point were getting really mad at him.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
Charlie was about to flip and become more critical of Israel.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
And, I mean, a lot of those text messages were authenticated by Turning Point.
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Will Sommer: Conspiracy Theorists Are Behind the Wheel in the Republican Party
They said, yes, you know, he was saying essentially these Jewish donors are โ