Will Sommer

They're alienating people.

I'm getting fed up with them because they're so demanding.

They demand this kind of total fealty to Israel and support.

They don't want any criticism.

And so I think that that really got a lot of it going.

And so that is sort of the fault line there.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think she's really, really popular outside of not just kind of like hardcore online politics people.

But I mean, you know, she got really into like celebrity gossip, the Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni lawsuit.

So I think she's expanded her audience beyond sort of a typical talk radio Ben Shapiro world.

And, you know, look, I mean, you can look at her metrics on YouTube, which I'm not saying are, you know, down to the view count accurate.

But each video she's hitting two, three, four million views.

She's all over TikTok, Instagram.

And, you know, I mentioned these videos of people saying, you know, is Candace going to make it out alive?

These do not seem to be like lunatics.

You know, they are people who are living in their homes.

They seem like otherwise regular people who might be watching The Bachelor or something like that.

And then they're also tuning in like a soap opera to this kind of Candace Owen versus Erica Kirk thing.

So I think she's very influential.

I mean, when I talk to, you know, regular people, I mean, people know who Candace Owens is.