Will Stone

Well, I think it's a combination of the numbers and the politics. We're at a particular political moment in which the Trump administration has decided that information about bird flu is one of the things that they're not going to be releasing to the public. So that puts this kind of what are they trying to hide situation up there.

Well, I think it's a combination of the numbers and the politics. We're at a particular political moment in which the Trump administration has decided that information about bird flu is one of the things that they're not going to be releasing to the public. So that puts this kind of what are they trying to hide situation up there.

Well, I think it's a combination of the numbers and the politics. We're at a particular political moment in which the Trump administration has decided that information about bird flu is one of the things that they're not going to be releasing to the public. So that puts this kind of what are they trying to hide situation up there.

I think public health people are very, very concerned about the fact that there's this vast destruction of animal life to try to prevent this flu from getting into people or for that matter, pet cats. The probability of this virus getting into people seems bigger than zero. And a lot of people are really concerned about it.

I think public health people are very, very concerned about the fact that there's this vast destruction of animal life to try to prevent this flu from getting into people or for that matter, pet cats. The probability of this virus getting into people seems bigger than zero. And a lot of people are really concerned about it.

I think public health people are very, very concerned about the fact that there's this vast destruction of animal life to try to prevent this flu from getting into people or for that matter, pet cats. The probability of this virus getting into people seems bigger than zero. And a lot of people are really concerned about it.

The time that just leaps to mind is 1906 when Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle, and the country was absolutely outraged by fears of what was going on in the meatpacking industry. And that led Congress to pass the food safety laws that we are still living with.

The time that just leaps to mind is 1906 when Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle, and the country was absolutely outraged by fears of what was going on in the meatpacking industry. And that led Congress to pass the food safety laws that we are still living with.

The time that just leaps to mind is 1906 when Upton Sinclair wrote The Jungle, and the country was absolutely outraged by fears of what was going on in the meatpacking industry. And that led Congress to pass the food safety laws that we are still living with.

Well, there's a huge amount of research to explain why people aren't more upset about unsafe food. Everybody eats. Lots of people have had food poisoning episodes and they don't seem very serious. They're unpleasant, but you get over them pretty quickly. And most people have not been exposed to the really dangerous pathogens that are in food. But there's something about the familiarity of food.

Well, there's a huge amount of research to explain why people aren't more upset about unsafe food. Everybody eats. Lots of people have had food poisoning episodes and they don't seem very serious. They're unpleasant, but you get over them pretty quickly. And most people have not been exposed to the really dangerous pathogens that are in food. But there's something about the familiarity of food.

Well, there's a huge amount of research to explain why people aren't more upset about unsafe food. Everybody eats. Lots of people have had food poisoning episodes and they don't seem very serious. They're unpleasant, but you get over them pretty quickly. And most people have not been exposed to the really dangerous pathogens that are in food. But there's something about the familiarity of food.

that makes people think it's okay. And you assume that if it's sold in a supermarket, it's going to be fine and you don't have to worry about it.

that makes people think it's okay. And you assume that if it's sold in a supermarket, it's going to be fine and you don't have to worry about it.

that makes people think it's okay. And you assume that if it's sold in a supermarket, it's going to be fine and you don't have to worry about it.

Right. And we have legislation and rules about how food needs to be produced in order to make sure that that the probability of it being unsafe is extremely small. But not everybody follows those rules. And so there's a sloppiness and a lack of incentives built into the system that I think is a real problem.

Right. And we have legislation and rules about how food needs to be produced in order to make sure that that the probability of it being unsafe is extremely small. But not everybody follows those rules. And so there's a sloppiness and a lack of incentives built into the system that I think is a real problem.

Right. And we have legislation and rules about how food needs to be produced in order to make sure that that the probability of it being unsafe is extremely small. But not everybody follows those rules. And so there's a sloppiness and a lack of incentives built into the system that I think is a real problem.

If you're looking at the personal level, that's the easiest way to do it. Heat kills bacteria and viruses. Heat kills bird flu. Pasteurization kills bird flu. You're worried about eggs? Cook them. Don't eat them raw. So, I mean, that's the easy one. I mean, there are basic rules about food safety in the home. Wash your hands. Wash the surfaces. Keep hot foods hot and cold foods cold.

If you're looking at the personal level, that's the easiest way to do it. Heat kills bacteria and viruses. Heat kills bird flu. Pasteurization kills bird flu. You're worried about eggs? Cook them. Don't eat them raw. So, I mean, that's the easy one. I mean, there are basic rules about food safety in the home. Wash your hands. Wash the surfaces. Keep hot foods hot and cold foods cold.