Limiting Musk's Powers; VA Employees On DOGE Emails; No Cure For Long COVID
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What changes are being proposed to staffing decisions in the U.S. government?
President Trump now says his cabinet secretaries will be the ones to make staffing decisions, not Elon Musk and his Doge entity.
But is that how things are really going to work?
I'm Scott Simon.
I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is Up First from NPR News.
I want the cabinet members to keep good people. I don't want to see a big cut where a lot of good people are cut.
That's what the president said, but there have already been some big cuts. We'll look at who's actually calling the shots.
We'll also hear how federal employees at one agency feel about those efforts.
Plus, five years after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, we'll look at the efforts to treat long COVID.
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How are VA employees reacting to Elon Musk's oversight emails?
President Trump said he wants his captain secretaries to work with Elon Musk on staffing decisions.
it almost sounds like he might be stripping some of that power away from Musk and his Doge entity.
But Izzy, NPR senior editor and correspondent Ron Elving joins us. Ron, thanks for being with us.
Good to be with you, Scott.
Well, what are we seeing? Are they putting a leash on that doge?
It's been sold that way, like it's Trump siding with his cabinet over Musk. But if you listen to that clip we just heard, it still seems that Musk gets to come along batting clean up and deciding whether the cabinet secretaries and other Senate-confirmed officials have done enough. So who decides what's enough? Is it Musk or is it Trump himself? And do we know whether that's really a difference? The New York Times reporters Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan have reported that there have been clashes between Musk and members of the cabinet, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, both of whom were reported to have been scolded by Musk for not cutting enough and for having too many DEI hires still working for their departments.
Is the Department of Government efficiency a potential political liability for congressional Republicans? Because after all, federal jobs are getting cut in their states.
Yes, that's right. It's not a clear liability yet, at least not for Republicans in Congress, because as we saw on Tuesday night at the State of the Union, Musk is still a hero to Trump fans, both in Congress and beyond. Musk still polls well among Trump supporters. But the Musk stock may have seen its peak, Scott. We will see how the cuts to Veterans Affairs staffing, for example, go down. with the families of vets in the care of the VA. And we'll also see how much Musk gets to do with Social Security. That's the most popular federal program in history by all measures. But Musk has compared Social Security to an illegal private investment swindle. He did that on Joe Rogan's podcast last month.
Everybody's got a podcast. Now, California Governor Gavin Newsom started one this week. His first guest was not another progressive Democrat, but right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. And they agreed on a few things.
Yes, Newsom took a more centrist position on bans on trans athletes in school sports. Now, Scott, I remember when would-be presidents would go on Larry King's CNN talk show to say they were thinking about the White House. Now, there may be a trend, as you suggest, towards starting your own pod. No one can be surprised that Newsom is thinking about what he may do for a living next. He's term limited as governor after 2026. So why not start a pod and start having guests who might attract an audience outside your own political base? And certainly Charlie Kirk at age 31 with millions of followers hoping to be influential even after the Trump era, he certainly speaks to people far from Newsom's base.
This coming Friday, March 14, is the deadline to avoid a government shutdown. How far apart are the parties?
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