William 'Blinky' Rodriguez

So that took off, and the last tournament or fight show that they had was in Detroit.

And after that, that's when things started going in another direction.

But it's just interesting the way that it evolved.

Yeah, they were just predicated upon that, but they just waist down.

See, the fight with Johnny Esterio, he was waist down, no kicks.

But there was a sanction by the WK that allowed leg kicks, leg sweeps.

And that's how I was able to set him up with that.

But at the end of the day, I mean, yeah, I mean.

Yes.

Interesting.

You could kick.

And I would set him up with the kick between the ankle and the calf.

Yeah.

And that's why, for me at least, going into that fight with Bill Wallace, it was like, if you're not kicking calf, thigh, body, and head, it's not international.

Because everywhere else in the world, that's what they're doing.

So the fight with Bill and I was the first live broadcast on CBS Sports Spectacular.

Wow.

Yeah, so, and the irony, you know, and it is what it is.

Look it, I get it.

I think any fighter, any champion, just a fighter, period, rather, you know, get knocked out than get robbed.