The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #173 with Benny "The Jet" Urquidez & William "Blinky" Rodriguez
21 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. Gentlemen, what's happening?
Where do we begin?
Where do you begin? Let me tell you. When I first came to Los Angeles in 1994, there was two places that I had to go. One of them was the Comedy Store, and the other one was the Jet Center. And I started training at the Jet Center in 94 before you guys shut down because you had the earthquake and you had the roof damage. So I was there before that happened, and I took your classes.
I took your kickboxing classes because I remember it was very scary because you had a bunch of gang members in there. Because you were doing that sort of outreach program where you're helping young gang members. So I had a spar with gang members. So I was training at the Jet Center until it shut down. And then I went briefly when you guys reopened in North Hollywood.
I went to that place for a little bit too.
The Jet Gym.
Yeah. But then I started training at Majiro Gym, which is in the Valley.
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Chapter 2: How did the Jet Center influence martial arts in Los Angeles?
But legends. You guys are legends, man.
Thank you, Joe.
True pioneers in martial arts.
For you to remember was really humbled me. You remembered, you mentioned my son and why I was starting that.
Yes.
And you don't even know what it's grown into since that day that you've seen what was going on.
Tell the story about your son and how that whole thing started.
Well, you know, unfortunately in some communities, drive-bys aren't uncommon. And so when it becomes a generational curse, you know, and kids are getting killed sometimes randomly, that happened to me. It came knocking on my door in a valley that's got 2 million people. It knocked on my door, and I was just, I'm going to put it this way. I had a calling on my life.
Two, to do something about it because it became a situation where families and community was like, well, yeah, well, that's what happens in our community. And I was saying, that is not what happens in our community. This is our community. And so I began to move. I began to move, ironically, with some churches that had that kind of ministry in their ministry and peace marches, et cetera.
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Chapter 3: What impact did gang outreach programs have on martial arts training?
So I'm still at it.
You're still doing that?
Still going. 36 years later, put an organization together, and some with real lived experience, others with degrees, and really put together a whole nonprofit that speaks directly to it where it's at. And so at the end of the day, yeah, it's over when we say it's over. You know what I mean? And ironically, what led the charge for me, at least, Joe, was forgiveness.
the forgiveness that only God can give. I got to tell it the way it is. And that forgiveness ended up taking me to the neighborhood that killed my son. And we had a huge meeting in that neighborhood, in the park, and a peace treaty kicked into place. No mother's crying, no baby's dying.
So to this day, I still continue to press in with a whole different, how would I say, integrated service delivery, but keeping violence in the middle of it and dealing with it. That's awesome.
And it's awesome that you brought them to a place like the Jet Center where they can learn discipline, learn how to fight, build real confidence, learn real martial arts skills, and also real martial arts mentality, especially when it's coming from guys like you. I remember when you knocked out Jean-Yves Thériault. Jean-Yves Thériault was the fucking man. He was the man.
Everybody was terrified of that guy. And I believe you knocked him out of the left hook. Is that correct?
Left. Right leg, left hook.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How did personal experiences shape the fight against community violence?
When you emerged in the kickboxing scene, the karate scene, there was no one like you. And you went undefeated, and you took on people of all sizes. And to this day, there's amazing highlights of you on the internet that people still bring up. Because you were fighting ties when you had no training like that. You were getting low kicked by those dudes and still found out a way to win.
It's pretty crazy.
Well, you know, I tell you, it was when my brother asked me, would you want to fight Tai? And I said, what's Tai? He said Muay Thai. And I said, I'll fight him. Honestly, I thought that was his name. I had no idea what Muay Thai was at the time, and so we took it on.
Where was the first Muay Thai fight that you had?
Matter of fact, it was at the Olympic Auditorium when we first fought. In Los Angeles? Yes. Ernest Hart fought the first Thai champion, and that was the main event. And I'll tell you what, when I first got kicked in the legs— And my eyes bulged out of my forehead. I said, I mean, I have strong legs, but I've never had anybody try to break my legs.
And so it was a rude awakening, but it was the best thing that ever happened to me because he took me to the streets. He really did because when he started abling, kneeing to my face, and I said, oh, you want to fight that way? Okay. I didn't understand it. I just thought that...
Did you know what the rules were?
No.
Oh, that's crazy. So you didn't know they were going to use elbows or knees?
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Chapter 5: What lessons did Benny learn from his martial arts training?
Oh, yeah, he was awesome. He was awesome.
I got a chance to meet him because one of the guys that I first trained jiu-jitsu under, I took private lessons from this guy, Silvio Pimento.
Oh, yes.
You know Silvio? I do. He's a great guy. Shout out to Silvio. And he was a Gene LaBelle student. So he had a bunch of nasty tricks that he had learned from Gene LaBelle along with his jiu-jitsu stuff. So he showed me a lot of different chokes and different things and different variations that Gene had developed. And I was like, man. And then I finally got to meet Gene.
What a character that guy was. He is such a character.
Gene was one of those type of warriors, senseis that say, if you want to train with me, Don't be afraid to get choked out. And before you can actually train with him, he'd choke you out. He'd choke you out, and he would go and get lipstick and put it around your eyes. And then when he'd wake you up, you had all this.
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Chapter 6: How did Benny and Blinky's gym impact their community?
That was Sensei Jin. And I told Sensei Jin, I said, get it over with. Just choke me out. Get it over with. Because I knew automatically he was being easy. I said, just do it. Get over with. I said, I'm not afraid. Just do it. And before or not, I was out, and I was back up again. I didn't even know I was out. And he said, you took it like a charm, man. What's your essay?
I said, you know, sensei, if I'm not afraid to die, what can you possibly do to me? He said, really? And I said, yeah. And then he grabbed my big toe and put me in pain all the way up to my forehead, all the way back down to the other big toe. And I said, I'll never say that one again. Your big toe. He had a big toe submission.
Yeah, he grabbed my big toe right at the edge of it, and he put his nail in it. And, oh, my God, my eyes were bulging.
Gene told me a story about when he was old. I think he was in his 70s. Some kids were breaking into his car and he went outside. Did you hear this story? Yes. There's two guys that were talking. They're like, get the fuck out of here, old man. He's like, oh, really? This dude fucking hip throws him out of the concrete. Boom! Grabs the other dude, chokes him unconscious.
He fucked up two dudes when he was 70 years old.
Yeah.
In front of his house.
As a matter of fact, I did a couple of movies with him.
His mother was Eileen Eaton. She owned the Olympic Auditorium. Oh, wow.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of forgiveness in martial arts?
The Olympic Auditorium was the spot way back then. You had some big-time fights going on. Big-time fights. He was always humble. You know what I mean? Yes. And he wore his humility very well.
Yeah, he was very self-deprecating and joking about himself and being silly. But, man, you shook that guy's hand. You're like, this is a fucking gorilla. It's Gene. There he is. Such a great guy.
Yes, he is, actually.
And he had one of the first mixed rules fights when he fought Milo Savage. That's right. That even predated the karate fights or the mixed martial arts fights that you guys had in Hawaii. That's right. He fought Milo Savage, who was a boxer, and he wore a gi. And the gi was so smart because Milo got tangled up in the gi, and Gene grabbed him and strangled him.
Chapter 8: How are modern fighters different from those in the past?
You know, matter of fact— It was Muhammad Ali, at the time, we went to fight in Japan. And he was the main event, I was the semi-event.
Was that when he was fighting Inoki?
Yeah.
He stood on the ground.
Oh, yeah. I went, and I knocked out my opponent quickly because I wanted to see the fight. So I stopped my opponent. Who did you fight?
Do you remember?
I can't even think of his name.
See if you can find the undercard, Benny's fight on the undercard. Because that fight with Inoki was crazy. I don't know how they talked Muhammad Ali into fighting him.
You know, it was a five-rounder. And there was not supposed to be no decision. It was five-rounder and so forth. And they both got paid great money. But I was telling in the dressing room, I was telling Muhammad Ali, he's going to go for your legs. And he starts saying... I'm so fast. I said, Muhammad, he's going to go for your legs. And I said, sure enough.
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