William 'Blinky' Rodriguez

Right.

And then you got those that can do both.

They'll dazzle you with a spinning back kick to the chin or they'll take you and put you in a rear naked choke.

You know what I mean?

So that's the other part of the game.

But, you know, when you start talking about back in the era that you understand and we understand, it was the bootle heart.

That was the transition, was the spirit of.

It was the essence.

You know what I mean?

It was that tradition that really brought more mystique to the martial arts, more tradition in a way that people honored.

You know what I mean?

So it was kind of like you start seeing the different transitions that came.

See what I'm saying?

And, you know, it's just like you hear people, it's like a guy's out.

He hits the ground, boom.

The referee don't get there in time, but he takes another whack or two.

You know what I mean?

So then that's the part, at least for, I'm like, wow, man, you want to make sure that he don't get up, but at the end of the day, those couple of extra shots can create the damage.

More damage.

You see what I'm saying, Joe?