William Doyle

So the point is that the skills here that the Finns were teaching in their K-12 from 1995 to 2003, let's say, are the skills that we need today.

And it's not largely digital skills.

It's

Arts and crafts, music, dance, physical activity, teamwork, and a lot of things that, you know, wood shop, metal shop, carpentry.

A lot of the things that we have forgotten about here.

My child, when he went to fifth grade here, had a kitchen.

He was learning how to cook.

And how to work a washing machine and how to have recess four times per day so he could get energized to learn more in school.

Much to learn here.

I think it all really happens in K-12.

And the issue of indoctrination is not a hot issue here just because there hasn't been much of it.

Thank you.

It's been great talking to you.