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The Happiest Country on Earth Isn’t What You Think

20 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What factors contribute to Finland being ranked the happiest country?

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32.752 - 46.387 William Doyle

I think the reason that Finns are satisfied and content with their society more than any other society, that's really the definition of the happiness index, I think, is that it is a capitalist paradise.

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46.948 - 55.958 John Bickley

For the ninth year in a row, Finland has been ranked the happiest country on Earth. They also received the highest ranking for freedom, largely due to pro-business policies.

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56.107 - 73.187 Georgia Howe

In this episode, we sit down with a New York Times bestselling author and expert on Finnish education policy to discuss what Finland gets right and what America can learn from their success. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor John Bickley, and this is a weekend episode of Morning Wire.

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Chapter 2: How does Finland's economic model differ from American perceptions?

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198.903 - 214.987 Georgia Howe

Joining us now to discuss how Finland has consistently outranked other nations in citizen well-being is William Doyle. He's the author of Let the Children Play, which examines the root of Finland's education success. And he's also a lecturer at the University of Finland. William, thank you so much for coming on.

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215.788 - 217.671 William Doyle

It's great to be with you. Thank you.

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217.887 - 239.128 Georgia Howe

So we're going to discuss the education system, which is also a big piece of this puzzle. But I want to discuss the persistent finding that Finnish people report very high ratings of well-being. Finland was recently rated, again, the happiest country in the world for nine years and counting. And it's also been rated the freest nation, which is really interesting.

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239.689 - 251.235 Georgia Howe

So I want to unpack a little bit of how that was calculated. But first, what do you think accounts for the happiness that people are experiencing in Finland? And do you think that ranking accurately captures a real feeling there?

251.35 - 278.304 William Doyle

That's a really good question. The mechanics of this poll are sometimes disputed inside Finland because the definition of the word happiness in some contexts is, you know, joy and outgoing jubilation. And that's not the daily rhythm of the personalities here in Finland. It's much more stoic. And they're wonderful people.

278.885 - 312.946 William Doyle

I've lived among them for five plus years, but the winters here are brutal and long. The economy is stuck in low growth, high unemployment, worse than the European average, by the way. But in fact, Finland is ranks number one in a whole spectrum of indexes. You mentioned the freest nation on earth. That's according to the bipartisan think tank Freedom House out of Washington, D.C.

313.346 - 332.171 William Doyle

In answer to your question, I think the reason that Finns are satisfied and content with their society more than any other society, that's really the definition of the happiness index, I think. is that it is a capitalist paradise. It is not, you hear that it's a socialist welfare state.

332.551 - 352.975 William Doyle

It's actually the opposite that compares favorably with the United States, according to the Heritage Foundation, in several key indexes. And I can tell you that living here, there's a lot, I think, that the United States can learn from Finland. There are many things you cannot do in the United States that are done in Finland, but

Chapter 3: What unique aspects of Finnish education contribute to well-being?

1100.686 - 1112.9 Georgia Howe

Well, it's an interesting cultural comparison. We think of Nordic countries as being very far left, but examples like that illustrate that their discourse is actually broader than ours to the right in some ways as well. William, thank you so much for coming on.

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1113.3 - 1114.802 William Doyle

Thank you. It's been great talking to you.

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1114.902 - 1117.025 Georgia Howe

Please come to Finland. Yeah, I'd love to.

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1118.667 - 1123.352 John Bickley

That was New York Times bestselling author William Doyle, and this has been a weekend edition of Morning Wire.

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