William Martin

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Lore Lodge podcast, where we have a very special guest tonight, one of our favorite recurring guests on the show, Nick from The Missing Enigma. Nick, you want to say hi? Hi, thank you for having me. Always good to be here. All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Lore Lodge podcast, where we have a very special guest tonight, one of our favorite recurring guests on the show, Nick from The Missing Enigma. Nick, you want to say hi? Hi, thank you for having me. Always good to be here. All right.

I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you saw either, Joe Scott, big channel, two and a half or so million subs, he did a video on Missing411 today, and he brought us up. No way. And I made a point to shout you out in the comments. No way. Well, thank you, man.

I don't know if you saw, I don't know if you saw either, Joe Scott, big channel, two and a half or so million subs, he did a video on Missing411 today, and he brought us up. No way. And I made a point to shout you out in the comments. No way. Well, thank you, man.

I was like, no, no, spread the love. Spread this. There's more. There's a lot of good channels. But, yeah, so, I mean, that's obviously what we talk about most of the time, and I thought that would be a fun – I was like, ah, this is the universe giving a sign. We're getting another person talking about this who's nice and big.

I was like, no, no, spread the love. Spread this. There's more. There's a lot of good channels. But, yeah, so, I mean, that's obviously what we talk about most of the time, and I thought that would be a fun – I was like, ah, this is the universe giving a sign. We're getting another person talking about this who's nice and big.

And he was – one of the other reasons I wanted to bring it up, again, big channel. His conclusion on this was kind of what we typically run into, which is – Alright, this is a little weird, but... There are explanations.

And he was – one of the other reasons I wanted to bring it up, again, big channel. His conclusion on this was kind of what we typically run into, which is – Alright, this is a little weird, but... There are explanations.

Exactly. And I thought that would be the best way to go with this one, with this episode, because, you know, this fall we went down to the Appalachians and we had a time. We looked into the Jordan Grider case, as you did, and I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on it in a more conversational format. But some of these cases... really don't make sense. And it's, those are the fun ones.

Exactly. And I thought that would be the best way to go with this one, with this episode, because, you know, this fall we went down to the Appalachians and we had a time. We looked into the Jordan Grider case, as you did, and I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on it in a more conversational format. But some of these cases... really don't make sense. And it's, those are the fun ones.

I mean, not fun, obviously. And like, it's horrible, terrible tragedy, but as an investigator years later, it's, it's kind of fun to, you know, have an actual challenge, try and figure out what's going on instead of, I don't know if you, how much you've looked into the great Smokies cases, but there's like four or five where it's just not Mr. Mysterious at all.

I mean, not fun, obviously. And like, it's horrible, terrible tragedy, but as an investigator years later, it's, it's kind of fun to, you know, have an actual challenge, try and figure out what's going on instead of, I don't know if you, how much you've looked into the great Smokies cases, but there's like four or five where it's just not Mr. Mysterious at all.

It's like somebody, somebody is up at the top of Clingman's dome. And he's like, I'm going to, I'm going to race you guys to the parking lot. And then he disappears. Yeah.

It's like somebody, somebody is up at the top of Clingman's dome. And he's like, I'm going to, I'm going to race you guys to the parking lot. And then he disappears. Yeah.

Dude, let us know. We have plenty of B-roll if you want some. Really, for anything in the Appalachians, we have B-roll for you.

Dude, let us know. We have plenty of B-roll if you want some. Really, for anything in the Appalachians, we have B-roll for you.

Well, since you bring up Trenny, though, I'm curious. What were your thoughts?

Well, since you bring up Trenny, though, I'm curious. What were your thoughts?

Oh, she's not in there. It's no, no way. You know, for those who don't know, Trenny Gibson was 16 in 1975, 76, 76, 16 in 1976. She was on a school field trip in a park, Great Spooky Mountains National Park up the Clingmans Dome area, headed down to Andrews Bald. It's about a mile and a half or so of a trail and three quarters of a mile to half a mile from the parking lot.

Oh, she's not in there. It's no, no way. You know, for those who don't know, Trenny Gibson was 16 in 1975, 76, 76, 16 in 1976. She was on a school field trip in a park, Great Spooky Mountains National Park up the Clingmans Dome area, headed down to Andrews Bald. It's about a mile and a half or so of a trail and three quarters of a mile to half a mile from the parking lot.