William Martin

Exactly.

Exactly.

No, there wouldn't be blood spatter if he was dead. Right.

No, there wouldn't be blood spatter if he was dead. Right.

Yeah, because a wolf isn't going to gingerly try and... It's just going to bite at things until you fall out. Right. It's going to rip and tear. I have a husky. It is a third the size. Still would be that destructive.

Yeah, because a wolf isn't going to gingerly try and... It's just going to bite at things until you fall out. Right. It's going to rip and tear. I have a husky. It is a third the size. Still would be that destructive.

Not a single, I think, recorded kill by a wolf in Minnesota in the last 120 years.

Not a single, I think, recorded kill by a wolf in Minnesota in the last 120 years.

And it was by a wolf with a deformed jaw. Exactly.

And it was by a wolf with a deformed jaw. Exactly.

No. At least not in the 1800s. That's the other thing I've been running into that I was not aware of is the predator populations in this country were kind of at their lowest in like the 50s through the 70s.

No. At least not in the 1800s. That's the other thing I've been running into that I was not aware of is the predator populations in this country were kind of at their lowest in like the 50s through the 70s.

Because they were all basically hunted to extinction.

Because they were all basically hunted to extinction.

Yeah, and then, you know, they were like, oh, ooh, we killed all of them. One of the wild that do you do you run into the thing where you'll be researching for a case and the Park Service or the Forest Service or the Department of Wildlife, whatever it is like, oh, there's absolutely no mountain lions here. And then all of the hunters in the area are like, there are mountain lions here.

Yeah, and then, you know, they were like, oh, ooh, we killed all of them. One of the wild that do you do you run into the thing where you'll be researching for a case and the Park Service or the Forest Service or the Department of Wildlife, whatever it is like, oh, there's absolutely no mountain lions here. And then all of the hunters in the area are like, there are mountain lions here.

Um, and you wonder, like, you gotta be aware of it. You know, it can't be just that they're, you know, oh, well, we've heard about it, but we haven't confirmed it yet. So you'd think they'd be like, there may or may not be mountain lions here.

Um, and you wonder, like, you gotta be aware of it. You know, it can't be just that they're, you know, oh, well, we've heard about it, but we haven't confirmed it yet. So you'd think they'd be like, there may or may not be mountain lions here.

Chances are it's somebody with the Ranger getup who's sitting at a desk in a nice air-conditioned room like, oh, no, don't worry about it. There's no mountain lions here. Meanwhile, Ranger Rick is over there like, I shot one.

Chances are it's somebody with the Ranger getup who's sitting at a desk in a nice air-conditioned room like, oh, no, don't worry about it. There's no mountain lions here. Meanwhile, Ranger Rick is over there like, I shot one.