Willie

Snapper.

Yeah, you just got to beat the shark to the boat, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, morale booster. He was the CMO, Chief Morale Officer.

Welcome back to the duck call room, ladies and gentlemen. We're waking up.

Okay.

There it is. Yeah, if you couldn't beat a yellowtail to the boat, you was in a bad spot.

Them yellowtails ain't very big.

Yeah, look at them shoes. He's still rocking them.

Man, y'all was out there on a good day. You don't see that blue water that cold.

Yeah, that's blue water fishing there.

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Individual results may vary and are not guaranteed. But I can report I got to meet Coach Saban a couple of days ago. Oh, yeah.

No. And I didn't even ask.

I had to do a deal for Academy. Did he yell at you?

No, in Dallas.

He was over there. That old boy gets around, though. Yeah, he leave Tuscaloosa every once in a while.

But it was funny because then we were talking about it yesterday, filming that deal, and Christian was like, well, you didn't get a picture with him? I was like, no, I just couldn't make myself ask him.

or a picture which led to a conversation christian was like well who would you ask for a picture with i had a rule about that and i was like i i i don't i let them ask first if they want one but other than that i'm happy with the conversation right like it that that's enough for me yeah i said i do have one with emmett smith only because he asked for one and i said okay well we're gonna take two

And I got one with Scott Van Pelt, because same deal. He's like, hey, let's take a picture. I was like, yeah, okay, cool. But I mean, it was like a foreign concept for a Christian. To not ask for a picture.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The John Daly one? No, the other one. Do you know who's in the other one? No, but he wanted the picture.

Oh, yeah, Bill Clinton.

Oh, crap.

Yeah, that's a pretty good one there.

He was cool. Yeah, Emmett was cool, man. We played golf with Emmett one time. Yeah, he was a fan of us. I won $100 on the golf game from him. You beat Emmett Smith in a sporting event? Yeah, then I made him sign it and I still have that $100 bill.

No.

He's been modest. The only people that are good at golf play it on Thursday through Sunday. Yeah, and they're not as good as they want to be. No. No, it's the world's most aggravating game. The ball does not move.

It is sitting there.

We played a lot and blew a lot of money.

Topgolf is fun.

Topgolf is fun. You pay by the hour. People bring you food. They bring you drinks. Yeah, golf course is out. I don't know how Topgolf hasn't shut down all golf courses.

Tiger? Yeah, Tiger Woods. Yeah, he's decent. What was the guy that was good at golf?

I'd love to walk in and see Si playing Tiger Woods on a station.

Well, you know, one of the things. It's all good.

It was real.

Simon, you play Mario Kart with me.

You talking about Greg Norman?

I can't wait for you to watch Happy Gilmore.

And then he missed a putt.

Yeah, but that kind of ruins part of it.

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300 yards. I could watch this all day. That one right there caused you to have to pull your tally whacker out because you didn't make it past the front tee. I can tell you what happened there. That's the rule on golf there. You had to stop and drop trowel. Just a little dribble there. He's looking at it. 300 yards. He watched it for .2 seconds before it hit the ground.

Neither was Si.

Right. I played a lot of golf. I hit like two, 300 plus. Well, hey, that one. Let me tell you, both of them involve the cart path.

300 yards a long way because you got to remember.

A deer 300 yards away from you is little.

That won't even break a pane of glass.

He had to paint a glass with that swing, the ball coming back at you.

Oh, I remember that. That was Duck Dynasty when we played night golf.

What other tall tales you got today? These old ones. I'm interested.

I know, but it sure is entertaining the way you tell them, so I'm just trying to figure out what other sporting event.

That's fun. It's not fun when he's hitting golf balls at you.

See, that's the problem with golf. You always get to a level where you just keep You lose all good sense, right?

Really, all you got to do, if you just go stand by the flag, you'll be pretty safe.

No, he can't putt, yeah. That's a bad deal. I plead the fifth on Willie's putting. Well, you were his caddy. We got to the green, man. You got a cut of his winnings.

$100 bill, y'all. But, you know, golf is, yeah, it's aggravating. I quit. I quit and started fishing again.

Well, and then Willie and Jace.

Well, Willie and Jace play every day, and they're like, hey, let's play four minutes. You would figure they would get pretty good. You just get your brains beat in.

They're pretty salty. I mean, as far as hobby golfers go, you know. Hobby golfers.

Well, not the people that play for a living. I mean, we play with Bubba Watson for crying out loud.

Yeah. Glit Willie for a hondo right off the rip.

But still beat him. He did flip it over and out drive Willie. That was.

That's how you knew Bubba made a lot of money hustling driving ranges.

Yeah. Game.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's a bad deal. I was like, how's this going to work? And then Bubba did it, and I don't know if that ball still landed. But it was incredible.

One of them. Bill got it. In case you ever need it again.

I'll golf the one thing that'll make a deacon. Because you've got a bad ticker.

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What'd he say? He said, I was there. He said, sometimes you just got to lean on it. He would lean to pop the head off of it. Every club had a fiberglass shaft. He broke it. Yeah. He said, sometimes you just got to lean on it, and he just broke it. Just had a bad day? Yeah. Well, it's not even a bad day, but you know how Willie and Jace are. I get under your skin. Buddy, trash talk like no others.

And if they got you down.

The last thing you want to do is get in a battle of wits with Willie and Jace on the golf course.

I got respect for that move. Well, I tell you, me and Al most of the time rode together because we were so bad. I'm surprised Al wasn't better.

Yeah, he wasn't.

Yeah, because you go into his box. If you are 100 yards behind him, he's going to his first. His first, that's right. And then he turned around. and go drop you off, and then you got to walk back to his ball. But he had to go look and see where he was.

Oh, boy. I love it.

He would drive 100 yards past your ball.

Oh, yeah. When I knew if I got there last and had to end up with Jace, I was about to be walking a lot that day. And the longer we played.

Oh, that boy will leave you.

Yeah, he'll take off.

That don't work. And you can check him out at Godwin. Godwin.com.

Johnny Godwin. Yeah, I don't even talk to him. That's why I commented on his Instagram deal. I said, I'm going to have to book a day to see my friend again. And he just sent you a link, didn't he? Yeah. He said. Credit card information. He replied. He said, you sure can. Yeah. And I was like, Godwin's going to clip me for $500 just to see my buddy again. But you know what? It's worth it.

He sent Miss Paula in to get him a hat the other day.

That's a toughie. So the allergies done got you.

Oh, man. Yeah. Man, I miss that old boy. Hunter, it's been a couple. Do we have voicemails or anything you want? You got anything marked?

Yeah. Lots of witnesses. Yeah.

Mail?

Oh, mail. Mail.

Yeah.

And then my friend Russ, Russ Shargaloff.

From Indiana. Why would I open? I opened mine. I didn't open yours. Hey, Si, but look at here. Oh, this is mine? My buddy Russ sent us a bunch of German condiments.

Yeah, look at here. Look at all the.

He sent us all the German condiments. Okay.

And I think he sent y'all some cocktail sauce maybe or something. Ketchup? Nope. Which one's that? Just talk about it. I don't know what it is. St.

It's not red. It's white. It's got a little orange look about it. It's got so much white in it. I don't know. That's my buddy Russ from Indiana. He sent that down for everybody.

All right, I'll have it made then. You can put it on anything. Because this right here, both of them are good. Hey, crack that cocktail sauce open. I want to see Si try it.

I want to see Si just take his finger after it. I bet he will, too. That knife. We ain't got no spoon? No.

If you wait two seconds, I can give you a spoon. Give me a spoon. Just put your finger in there. Give me a spoon. I didn't want to see him dip his finger in it.

Oh, God. Oh, God. I just grabbed one, I'm sorry.

Does it mean? He had a heaping.

If I did have, I'd kill it. St. Elmo's fire, baby. Has St. Elmo got that fire?

Oh, so I took a tablespoon. I mean, I know it was on a fork, but that was equivalent to a tablespoon.

Oh, folks, if you're just listening to this, please go to the YouTube.

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That is so good. Do I need to grab more forks and spoons? Not for me, you don't. Nope.

Oh, my goodness gracious. Haley, congratulations on your graduation.

Yeah. Whatever happened on your refrigerator freezer situation?

Prez got some accessories now, son.

That's what's wrong with them catfish. Them catfish. The only thing I love about the dam stories is it's at every dam that exists.

That's when he's just walking around saying, look, all that stuff y'all been saying, I can hear y'all.

Yeah, so y'all pay attention.

You looking for something to calm the fire?

So St. Elmo got some fire, huh?

Now, this is going to be fun. I don't think I can open this. Oh, there we go. Oh, no. what'd you do that's just mustard yes i was looking for anything that'll my man's gonna just take a shot of mustard to try i don't know what's happening hey this that's good oh okay that's good he said that's good the mustard we got off amazon i'm sweating so does mustard does mustard in fact like calm the heat

We're in trouble. What's your friend's name, Russ? Russ. Russ, you've derailed us. Well, no, Si got himself. He took a daggum tablespoon.

And it don't matter what damn you go to.

Well, I mean.

That's why I said the fanger. I don't know what y'all had against just like dobbing your fanger in there.

Be a bear. Be a grizzly. How'd that go for you? You doing all right? No. You going to manage? Well, let's get out of here then. Forget it.

Give us something on heat.

Yeah. there you go you see sweat on me no i'm i'm i need a water oh man well we enjoyed it thank y'all so much rush you got them that would be better on on a shrimp well duh well straight instead of just straight because hey that's worse than a bad bourbon we'll see y'all next time we're right here

Whatever she said. Oh, you mean you got poked with a shot. Right. Yeah, I think that was the word she used. Yeah, you got that Roseffen shuffle. You know, where your butt cheek hurts for a little while.

Sir, he's not a fish. Not a fish.

He made that wall.

Or was that Willie?

Yeah. So, Si, I hate to burst your bubble.

No. Here we go. But there was this show that ran for a while called You may all check it out. You'd love it. Called River Monsters.

They caught all the monsters.

Yeah, I'm out.

I locked my drag down and said, this is it, buddy. Hey, springtime's here. It's nice. It's porch sitting weather. You like sitting on the porch, don't you, Sam? Oh, yeah. With my iced tea. There you go. What kind of iced tea are you drinking?

Yeah, yeah. Steroid shots are a miracle, man. They work. Anyways. Yeah, here we are. Me and Si spent yesterday afternoon filming.

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the duck dynasty it was fun because hey guess what hey hey careful we can't tell them all now i'd like to know because i was about out there y'all were like we're done yeah there were a little fun involved in yeah it was fun yesterday plus we found a we found a shed antler like you know we were just hanging out doing all the things uh i'm working with the old man is i mean he's he's a delight

A 90 foot long boat?

I'm ready. All right.

It was not a redfish.

Sounded like a bull shark to me. It was a big.

It was a big shark.

Hey, here's the deal. It sounds like bull something else too.

We just left Venice and went to Key West.

Well, now he's brown. Well, no, no.

I'm trying to Google this. It's very tough.

Well, I would say it's because you're an eternal optimist. You know, you find the silver lining in everything.

Like, especially in his element.

That's the nurse shark. I imagine that's the same feeling you get when you're in the hospital and Burley walks in as your nurse.

And Burley's there.

I know. He knows. I know. He ain't cocky, but he knows.

What other wild tales?

Working the whole time.

Speaking of believing in something.

So that's what you were doing 20 years ago. You were starting CR here, and now you're, what's your technical title? Universal Director?

Cosmic Director. He's the Cosmic Director. Just in case we find life on Mars, if they do that.

That's going to go the weekend and preach.

That's six million people that bought in and said, I'm going to commit to a 12-week study.

Get rid of that garbage. So speaking of that part, my dad, this lady was telling my dad this really cool story the other day. And she was like this church down the road from here that a long time ago, this man came in and he had been, you know, he had been a drug addict. And he finally just walked up front and told the whole church at one Sunday that

and said, I'm tired of living this life, and everybody walked down there and forgave him. Yeah, can you help me? And she was telling my dad this story, and he goes, yeah, it's my brother. I know that cat. And she was like, are you for real? So, like, she didn't know you, but she'd heard the story of, like, all this forgiveness and throwing off everything that hindered you back then. Right.

And now the life you're living now. And she was just amazed to tell people about that story. And it was like, it was, it's funny to think about. Cause to her, it was like almost folklore. Like this amazing story she'd heard about. And my, she was telling your brother and I was crack me up.

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The big guy from the North pole. You're representing my man.

Oh, that is so – Do you have any idea that's one of my, like, dreams in life whenever I go gray to just go around as a – Santa's helper.

I don't like taking shots at local things from around here, but you're better off going to Denver than you are staying here.

Look, Santa run a tight ship. You don't get all around the world in one night without having some rules and regulations.

Is there like a rate card on this?

We're going to have him at the Honey Hole here in the week, just out there in the parking lot in a camouflage one.

There you go. There is one really good Santa in town.

He's the legit guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like Mac. He's been vetted and tested.

Oh, man. It's kind of like Santa might be running a pyramid scheme.

That's good. Okay, that's good.

We left you with like 18 Bible verses.

Here you go, Johnny D. That's the worst song ever, and Willie always sings it. And now I've carried that tradition on to my children and annoyed them by going, Christmas time is here. And now I'm annoying people that are listening.

Look at Mac.

My Uncle Mac's the best.

Look at Owens.

You want to end up how Mac's ended up.

So you got to find some people to lock it down for you. And, you know, you got to pass some rigorous testing.

Via the Denver Mall. Good thing it's not the Denver Airport. That's a whole different podcast. Oh, boy. I do have one email. Yeah, go ahead. Fire away. What do we got? I wish Mac was still here because he'd be a great addition to this one, but I think we can all help out. Oh, Joe emails in. Joe? Uncle Joe. What do you know, Joe? Not my uncle Joe. He's from Evansville, Indiana. Okay.

And he asked the preacher's daughter out to a dance.

See, why'd you say uh-oh?

Okay, because now he's kind of freaking out.

Because the dance is less than two weeks away. Are you trying to learn how to dance in two weeks? That's not going to happen. If all goes well, he'd like to ask her out again, but we're 15 and we can't drive by ourselves.

Do you have any advice on where to take her?

Take her to church, bro.

Um, where are you going to go?

Get a ride to the park in Evansville, Indiana.

They canceled Disney. I'm just kidding. What do you think, Sal? Where should he take the preacher's daughter? They're going to a dance. So, I mean, they're clearly a different breed of Christian than I was growing up because dances were the devil.

I ain't in charge of the elves, but one's my uncle. They're a dime a dozen. Do you know the other ones? No. Oh, okay. That's in the Denver Mall. We're going to talk to Mac about it here in a bit. If you're in the Denver Mall, go see my uncle.

Yeah, I don't know. Can we? All right, so you got that going for you. You can dance.

You can't do that. Not with the preacher's daughter.

Actually, you should do it. She's a preacher's daughter. She's dying to have some fun. Yeah. Look her in the eyes and say, you want to go get a pizza and make out? Just deliver it well, my friend.

Well, hey, I'm talking about the high school prom. We got to discuss something, actually. Okay, go ahead. We have not covered this epidemic yet. that has happened to our country. And Si, you don't know about this. When you went and asked a girl to prom or whatever it was you may have gone to, what did you say?

They work harder on asking girls to prom than I asked Allison to marry me. And they video it and post it for the whole world. You'd be shocked, Si.

Have you seen this, Martin?

Remember when we should have gone to prom together, girl?

No, we just need to move to a bigger town. Yes. Oh, my God. But can I say something?

She said yes.

Johnny's pizza. Thank you.

oh no he shoot a shot that's why i was asking the situation you need a heart monitor on me i am terrified but i'll i'll shoot my shot young men that listen to this podcast that email in and are nervous as crap shoot your shot man look at hunter jones am i allowed to say your last uh you've been saying it hunter jones is the man

Forget the sign.

Bed bags. Alarm.

It would work. I would actually do that because I was the opposite. I'd be like, I'm going to get her something cool so she really likes me, and then they dump you. Yeah. Be like Martin in this.

They're going to get pizza, and if it goes bad, he's going to be like Hunter and just- Go see some Christmas lights. Turn his sights elsewhere and just keep hopping back in the saddle.

I've been there.

From Kentucky.

There's no zoo season, Mark.

Yeah. They move more in the winter.

Christmas is canceled due to the Corps of Engineers. The Corps of Engineers got us again. I'm going to send them a video of Carter on Christmas morning.

That's all good. The Lord's blessed us, and we'll keep selling stuff to the non-300 people that were just going to show up, and we have a very captive audience.

I'm angry, but I'm good.

It's something that I'm going to think about every day for the next three weeks. You know, do you think your dad could be a mall Santa? Nope. Nope. He ain't got the right kind of hair. Actually, Big Dave's got perfect hair. Big Dave's just not quite as cuddly. Jolly. He's jolly. Yeah. Is he, though? Not with you.

It's Big Dave's line. Yeah. One day he's going to catch polio. It's going to be really bad.

Because I don't think most of the time he means it. No.

You know what? I hear him say that often, and I don't know what polio does to people. Yeah. How do you get it? I think it's gone, right?

Is that what that's about? My son went to a birthday party yesterday that was a silent disco of all third graders. He came home and he goes, Dad, you know what my favorite song was? Ice Ice Baby. And I was like, you didn't give me time to guess. And B, a bunch of third graders were listening to Ice Ice Baby and dancing with headphones on. That sounds actually kind of fun. Really? Yeah.

It's a new thing. They all listen to the same song? You put headphones on and you all get in a room and they listen to the same song and they just dance.

I assume it's for the people without headphones to laugh at you.

Oh, you got to like get a whole company because there's like a hundred kids.

And they all get their own headphones.

John Travolta.

He would have crushed it in a silent disco party. That's interesting.

it's a couple days ago well mac didn't send us out with the birds he sent us out with a whole chapter yeah we're like seven of them yeah hunter call it back to that yeah there you go all right enjoyed it y'all we will see you also hold on before we get gone ladies if you're interested in hunter email me hello can they leave a message on our voicemail ladies leave a message for hunter there's a girl at the very

First email named Talia. I think you two would hit it off. You should check her out if your date doesn't go well. Goodbye. I'm going to sell worms. Yeah. All right.

I like how Hunter starts yelling no like he doesn't have the power to just totally take it out.

Look at his size shoes. That's what it is. It's just like the Grinch.

His size shoes were too tight and his head wasn't screwed on just right.

Yeah.

It's not that his heart is three sizes too small. It's that his shoes are too tight.

Oh, no, mine are like the ones with people's pictures.

Like Phil. I got a pair of Phil's face on them socks.

They're at a Christmas luau that says rednecker than you on the backdrop.

The only redneck hibachi is in the House of Waffles.

I love when they cook in front of you on that flat top, though.

I always wanted to do that.

Be a hibachi chef. So I did it.

But those things are kind of like hooters. You got to have a certain feature to work there as a hibachi chef.

You hired a Santa to come to your house? Or is that the real one?

There's a white guy at the local hibachi. Yeah. I would be disappointed. I don't think that's wrong. I think that's okay to say in 2024. There's certain jobs meant for certain people. I don't know if this can air.

It would make it more fun. Gotcha. If that guy's doing the, if it's me up there, I'm like, hey, everybody, here's a little Japanese Coca-Cola.

Redneck. Well, and as long as somebody else is dropping me off, then I've covered all the bases to be a Waffle House high-body chef.

If there's not a police car in front of it, I'm not even stopping. Hold on. Here's the deal, though. Everybody likes to make jokes about Waffle House like that, but when you go in there, they got their years on their name badges. And you see some people have been doing that for like 14, 15 years.

Oh, I thought. No, they got like how many years they worked there, though, too. Do they?

I think so. I was just at Waddle House recently.

Martin, you know what would have been awesome?

Invest in the stock market right at the right time and in the right place when everybody made all that money.

But it was tough. I didn't have no money.

Why were you mad this morning? Welcome back to the Duck Call.

He's already done three segments. We have a guest. It's my Uncle Mac. They've already preached the whole gospel. And ready, set, go.

My name is Willie and my question is, is magic real?

When he talks about, hey, I think there's going to be a martial law, I think there's going to be an EMP device that wipes out all communication, are you like... He's been watching too many of the X-Files.

Every time I think feminism has kind of, like, died off, you know? You know, like a band you can't stand, and you just, they haven't put out an album in a few years. You're like, oh, good, did they quit? Did they break up? And all of a sudden they come out with some more s***. You're like, ah, what is it now?

I'm just f***ing with you feminism doesn't bug me you know it doesn't bother me I'm not afraid of it or anything like that you know for the simple fact that I know it's gonna fail you know and I I take comfort in that I do I'm not rooting for it because I know it doesn't like me um

My name is Willie and my question is, is magic real?

I'll give you the best I can give you, baby That's all I can give And we'll live it the best we can live it, baby As long as we live. What kind of love never turns you down? What kind of love lifts you off the ground? Turns your life around? What kind of love makes you go out in the wind and the driving rain? What kind of love runs through your heart with a pleasure so close to pain?

What kind of love, only this love I have?

Sometimes I think about leaving As if I had some place to go I might even crank up the engine And roll down the street just for show Nobody said it was easy But that doesn't mean it ain't right I don't want nobody else with me When it comes time to call it a night So far I've kept every promise And this I'll continue to do. I'll love you like nobody's business. I wouldn't be me.

Bella DePaulo is glad if you're happily married, but she is perfectly happy being single.

My name is Willie and my question is, is magic real?

From yourself to your dog to your spouse are significant others. That's on the TED Radio Hour from NPR.

For me, I was mixing so much stuff, so much speed.

But you can hear it in the music now. Sometimes we go back for laughs and we'll listen to some of the shit I made when I was in psychosis.

I Want to Die in New Orleans. I think mine is... I was literally in psychosis from doing so much speed and downers, bro. I thought Southwest Airlines was trying to kill me. You told me that story once, bro. Yeah, I thought Kyle took a life insurance policy out on me for 70 grand.

Oh, I remember. I remember where I was at.

Yeah, yeah. I thought they were trying to kill me because my brother had bootlegged one of our tracks because he was bad off on dope and sold it to this person for like 800 bucks but actually didn't give him the song and just scammed him. And I thought the person he scammed was the son of somebody on the board of Southwest and they were just going to take me out.

That was a crazy fucking time. Bro, I was very convincing. There's a guy living at our house at the moment.

Even as a young kid, I sort of very neatly divided the world into like three categories of people. Right. There were the helpless people, the victims, the people who needed to be helped. There were the bad guys who were preying on the victims. And then there were the strong people who sort of stood up for for everybody else and stood up to the bad guys. That's like, you know.

That's overly simplistic. But definitely I saw my mom growing up very much as this person who was kind of a victim and was being preyed on by bad people, right? And then the person who was sort of looking up for us and standing up for me especially was my grandmother. And I think that attitude of – You know, some people are just not as strong as we wish them to be.

And I probably went into the Marine Corps. I was pretty whiny, pretty resentful kid, was pissed off at my mom, was pissed off at all these other people because I didn't have the things that I thought I should have. And then eventually, yeah, there's me when I was much, much skinnier, much better looking. Oh, yeah.

That's right.

We were 16, 17 when we hooked up. Y'all met at a carnival? Yeah, she worked for somebody, and I was working out there, and she worked for a friend of mine, another family. Let me dart that balloon, huh? She was actually pregnant when we hooked up already, too. Really? Yeah. Wow, that seems illegal. That's crazy in the eyes of God, but I don't know. And we're still friends.

I mean, Raekwon, her son, works for me now.

Wow. Yeah, her son works for me. Was there drug use out there? A little bit. Yeah. Just a little bit.

Couldn't take no money. I'm a diehard Tide fan. What amount of p***y would it take for you? No p***y or nothing. I'm a diehard Tide fan.

Yeah, but I seen some of them at the airport. Yeah, baby. And what do you... Oh, man, did some of them have one. God, nobody. Praise God, baby. Had one down there that'll choke a mule. Yeah, baby, that's what I'm talking about.

I'm not even supposed to be. Your interview is fucking hilarious. It's like a flight that never takes off. You're just sitting there. Man, I wish you could pick your cases. I wish they had a menu like, oh, here's the cases they're doing today. Because then I could see if I want to pretend like I'm racist or not to try and get out of it.

We got to, we got to, we got to filter through that. See how racist you are. Like we just go and grab a random group of a hundred of America's dumbest people and be like, Hey, sit in this room. We're going to use 10 of you to solve this murder. It blows my mind. Well, it's the craziest part about it is. This bitch works at a Leslie's pool supply and now they're fucking in charge of a murder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's why these politicians will say something, and they'll go back and figure out that they... Whatever they said never really happened. But I'm not real hard on them because I'm like, if the story gets tweaked a little bit and a little bit and you keep repeating it.

Was it the syllabic beating that we talked about on the previous podcast?

I was like, this is- I don't think it deserved a belt weapon.

He was the most intimidating of the seven. Yeah.

Your brain under a brain scan, it looks different because of that moment right there.

Roaming around.

Oh, my gosh. I mean, we start embellishing off the top. Who knows what's true anymore? We're serial embellishers. We've been that way. I'm like Pilot at this point. I mean, what is truth? I mean, I can't. The line is so blurry, at least with the stories that we've told and retold.

Yeah. I think that's the first I've heard of it as well.

Well, I mean, again, he was very intimidating.

I was scared of him, for sure. I was scared of him. At Granny's funeral, he showed up. I mean, he showed up at his mom's funeral, but... He was so mad that he said, one of y'all showed up with that big beard. It was dead inside.

Yeah, that's what it was back then.

Your time there was limited.

But you were great at that. Oh, I was good at it.

Don't burn the building down. Disclaimer, don't burn the building down.

But I mean, honestly, you think about the emphasis of the last two years of this podcast has been really from the scripture that the God's not in the building. I mean, he is in the building because we're in the building, but he doesn't live in the temples built by man's hand.

Well, you know, it's funny about that. In 1 Kings 8, when he dedicates the temple that God had given the instructions to build, at the end of it, he asked this question, at the end of all that, Solomon says, surely, and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't have it in front of me, but something to the effect of, surely God does not live in a house made by me.

And it wasn't a, like he's like pointing out the obvious, like even in the dedication of the temple after Solomon built it, he recognized that, the ridiculous nature, the God who made everything is gonna dwell in a house made by man? I don't think so. And surely this house won't contain you. And it was, that nugget right there was the same message that Jesus gave before his crucifixion.

He said, if you destroy this temple, I will rebuild it in three days, talking about his body. And it's the same, and they got him killed, by the way. It's the same message that Stephen gave right before he was martyred, when Stephen said, God does not live in temples built by man's hands, and he was killed for it. Acts chapter 7. Acts 7. John 2 was the first one.

It's my first time recording in the duck call room.

Which we're about to be in in a few weeks. And then Paul.

Yeah, it's so funny. I was thinking about this as we were singing some songs at church on Sunday, and I thought, man, how many songs have I sung over the years that actually cultivate an imagination for the complete opposite of what we're talking about? I was thinking that one song that it talks about heaven, This world is not my home, I'm just a passing through.

My treasures are laid up somewhere way out there beyond the blue. We've sang these songs all these years and we've been catechized in this idea that somehow that God's gonna only come in that building and one day we get to go be with him, but we're missing the point of where Jason mentioned of heaven and earth coming together. That is the point of the temple.

I mean, it is the point that God's presence, God comes to be. It's where man and God meet in the temple. And so it's pretty profound when you think about God coming from and where he's coming to, and he puts himself in a human body.

I mean, you can't overestimate or overemphasize the importance of that because God's ultimately going to make his home in human bodies, which is the ultimate connection of bringing heaven and earth together. It's in us. So our treasures aren't laid up somewhere beyond the blue. Our treasures are actually laid up in Him. He's in us.

But all of that eschatology is right here in John 1. Eschatology. We've already gone there. It's in John 1. We've embraced that one. That's a term that's been thoroughly vetted in this podcast. The audience has testified to it. You shouldn't be surprised.

You say that, but I'm looking at a picture right back there of somebody with an orange hat on. Yeah, they're deer hunting. I'm not the only orange hat in here.

We were in here when we did Shane and Shane that time. Yeah, but it was a different setup. Yeah, it was kind of like a six-person. It looked totally different. It had a round table. This is like... No, I sat here at that table when the power went out. That's the first time I did an ad read and that you and Phil...

I wondered if you were going to say that. Well, that's that repetitive learning and being shaped by the teachings of the Trinity. Categorize, but categuize.

You could use it in Scrabble. There was a word used in Scrabble. I will say this about the Robertsons. Y'all were great Scrabble players.

That was the problem. They said dad. Then dad was an English. He got his degree in English. And so then he learned, expanded his vocabulary. Do you guys remember the famous ergo? He used the word ergo. Yeah. And somebody challenged him. I think it was Willie. Said that's not a word in the course.

Yeah.

So you'll want to refer back two days to the Not Yet Now podcast. I interviewed Dr. William Lane Craig. I actually asked him this question, who I would argue is one of the world's greatest Christian apologists. I asked him the question on the podcast. How do you respond? And then I levied out the charge that has been brought. And he had a brilliant response. I'm not going to tell you what it is.

You've got to go listen to it. But anyways.

Shameless plug.

Can I just say this? I do need to repent.

Yeah.

Oh, you had a group of characters. Yeah.

It's not a bad idea.

Yeah, that'll happen. We're in the process of moving now. We may upgrade some furniture. I know y'all have complained about the chairs.

You got it with you? Yeah, I do. Oh, come on, somebody.

Yeah, because that's not a typical drum roll there. That was like an island drum roll.

I knew that was a re-gifting. That was one of the things. I don't got room for this. And he literally just handed them to me. I said, here you go.

He's a Christian apologist.

You know him Zach? I don't know him personally, but I saw the same interview and started following his work on Instagram.

Physically. Okay.

He also had a line about Jordan Peterson who is obviously – He's been on there too, right?

But to your point and to your ministry that you talked about earlier, there's a correlation here because I think so. We've backed up and said we're going to do ministry in the church. And we have we've lost the culture. And I love that Huff is going into other places. I love like you went to the bar like we need to be taking the gospel into the world. We don't have anything to fear.

My introduction to apologetics, which is what that guy's doing, by the way, was I was struggling. I talked about this on the podcast. Not yet now, which, again, shameless plug. But you need to hear it because it is. Dr. Craig was the first person that I had ever come in contact with.

And I would argue this guy, Craig is like a savant when it comes to just biblical knowledge, defending the truths of the scripture, the historicity of the resurrection, you name it. I mean, he's got about six or seven arguments that he has just owned. And I was really at a crisis of faith. I tell my story on the podcast, but

But there was a moment when I was at the end of my rope because I did not—I hoped that it was true, but I had a lot of doubts. And I get into this—make the story short—to a Google vortex. I wound up looking at—watching a debate between Dr. Craig, and I don't even remember the atheist who it was now, and I didn't know what he was talking about.

I could probably understand about 10% of what this guy was saying, but I knew he was winning the debate, and so I ordered his book called Reasonable Faith, which is the name of his ministry. I should not have ordered that book. It was way too deep for me. It took me three and a half months to read it because I just didn't understand everything in it. But that, for me, that was the awakening.

How old were you? I was 26. I'm 47 now, so it was 21 years ago. And that, and I never even read books. I mean, honestly, I'm ashamed to say this. I think the only, the last book I had read before I read that book was a book called James and the Giant Peach that I read when I was in elementary school. I just didn't read. I mean, I read the Bible, but then that's what started me.

And I was so intellectual.

I went from James and the Giant Peach to Reasonable Faith. Before that, it was C Spot Run. It was Beverly Cleary books and Hardy Boys. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I love that branch of Christian theology, the apologetics, and there's a lot of different branches even inside of that that for me have been super, super transformational.

I'll tell you what, I drove in last night from North Carolina because me and Al talked about this. If it's under eight, mine's 10 hours. If it's under 10 hours, I'm not blind.

But to your point, you know what, the most transformational thing after I've gone through and studied as much as I've studied is I come back and I read the Gospel of John, and I'm like... you can't make this up.

It's hard for us to understand that because our culture is... I mean, we have been so...

changed by google that we don't have to memorize anything in fact i was thinking about this the other day you know how many phone numbers that i actually know that's like five yeah well guess how many i know probably nine zero you know your own phone number no so they say what's your phone number and i'm like i don't know i don't know and they're looking at me horrified

It's supposed to be the most violent show ever.

This is an episode. It's not me. As we're talking here, Maddie, I'm thinking of all the different title descriptions that we could go with on this episode. There's a lot.

Oh, gosh, it kind of does. I'll send this to Matty. At about 10 pounds, it actually does. Hold on, I want to say one thing before we leave. I know we've got just a few minutes. But that oral tradition is so important because we have a hard time understanding what that is. But in Jewish culture, they could pass down large amounts of information, generation to generation to generation to generation.

As long as I'm in control of my own destiny. When you're at the mercy of the airlines, I'd rather be, if I'm going to be stuck, I mean, at least I'm in control. I'm driving my truck. I feel like we've had a breakthrough here. That's it. But anyways, I saw a herd of deer from all the way from, I would say, all the way from, you get over the Mississippi River, and it's about, what, 67 miles.

And one of the most powerful oral traditions in the Scripture is in 1 Corinthians 15, which is one of the anchor texts of the church that we all grew up in. This is an oral tradition that Paul received. I want to read it as we close because it is the actual gospel.

Now, I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you believed in vain. For what I delivered to you is of first importance what I also received. And here's the oral tradition, that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures.

that he was buried and he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures. That's an oral tradition that Paul received. It's one of the evidences, the earliest accounts of the gospel. They say that this was given within 15 months of the actual event, which if you look at the history of how we access history, this is so reliable because we don't have events.

recorded this this close or we don't have records to this close to the event in history so it's one of just something i thought about when you were talking about that but anyways shows the power and we're not ashamed of it so that's what i don't think we ever got started with this podcast well and yet it has to end all right we'll see you next time

Is it 67 miles? Yeah, from the Mississippi River to here. Yeah, and I mean- I mean, I've never seen, I mean, it was late at night, but I mean, you want to talk about the deer. That's when they all run around. I am. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.

It's a lot of waiting. I've never understood the waiting game. When we did the movie, I remember we were overtime every day, which costs you time and a half, and it blows the budget. But I was like, we need to hire a guy. I didn't know all the language. We need to hire a guy whose job is just clap and be, hey, come on, let's move it, and snap their fingers and move it along.

And then I know there's a guy who does that. He's called the AD. That's the way he needs to get on.

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Yep.

Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and we witnessed a true miracle that night with the water. That was amazing. The water was full in these baptistries, and we didn't have any water to bring in. You know how sometimes you got to just keep dumping more water in, and we're thinking, there's no way this water is going to last. And as we're baptizing... Hundreds of guys. I can't remember how many were baptized.

A lot, yes. The water is splashing, and we're standing in mud. We're covered in it, so you would think the water would go down. It did not go down. Those tubs were full at the end of the night. They were full at the end of the night.

That was a miracle too.

I will say, Willie has gotten better. We used to have a phrase, waiting on Willie. Wow was a very common phrase in our life, but he's gotten better about that. You were here before me today.

I was like, yeah, an opossum biting me.

That was for Jace?

Wrestling.

It was so annoying. It was the episode. It was the outhouse race episode. He's sitting in the whole episode because he couldn't walk.

Why not? He does do a lot of physical comedy this time around, too. I actually commented on that.

Yes.

He falls a lot.

Whether it's intentional or not, we'll never know. But, yes, he does do a lot of physical comedy. He falls a lot on this show, too.

Never knew what was funny about it either.

One time Willie was telling him like, oh, dad, that was so funny what you said. And he said, I wasn't trying to be funny. And we're like, we know that's why it was funny.

A walk, yes.

Oh, yeah. I really love local news.

No, the local news.

Women, yeah.

I was like, that's it. And remember when Lisa made the local news. Yeah, Lisa at the fair.

All the women listeners.

Family story.

I will say I spent every Sunday, every Sunday with our kids growing up, I would, you know, get all the kids ready for church. We'd all be ready. We'd all get in the car. Then Willie had to go to the bathroom every Sunday. I think that's a common.

Still makes fun of her for it.

I will say, when we first got them, it was chaos. They would stop. They wouldn't know what to do. They're still stopping.

Are we recording all this?

We're making our show way too complicated. We should have just done that.

Willie loves political commercials. That's another thing he loves is political commercials.

For the viewers, it is kind of hard because like we're talking this way, but then you're there. We should put you there. It is hard with guests.

That's a common women issue with men on Sunday morning before church. The coffee kicks in right when everybody gets in the car.

Fact or crap?

That's what it says.

Well, that one too.

I had it pulled up on my phone. That means nothing to our crew. Nothing.

There you go.

Yeah.

Sometimes it goes. You never know.

Well, earlier there was something y'all were talking about. I was like, I need to bring this up because y'all were talking about, you know, feeding sidelines to make fun of Willie. Well, we had a full circle moment the other day. Willie came home and was like so proud because John Luke told Willie something to say to make fun of himself.

And so he came home and he was like, I was so proud as a dad. It's like they were doing something and John Luke was like, oh, dad, say this. And it was like, a riff on him. It was making fun of himself. And he was like, it was full circle. It was so perfect.

That's right.

What is it?

That's a spiritual nugget.

Yeah, it's true.

Wow.

Zach's bringing up the college minister.

Just for fun. Just drive.

It is a lot faster. It is crazy how much faster it is. Fix the traffic. It is really good.

It's like once you know, then you actually can do it because then you're comfortable. Complacent? Complicit? Complicit. Then you're complicit. I'm not complicit. Now you're complicit. He lives complicit, but he's now complicit. So Jace, don't tell him.

We went on a roundabout in Cape Town, South Africa, with John Luke driving on the wrong side of the road. That was the scariest moment of my life. Around about on the opposite side.

With the wheel on the opposite side. That is terrifying.

We did it about three times before we figured out which way to get off.

It's so weird. Because it's opposite. So weird. Yes.

He should have been driving by that point.

For a while, yes. It airs June 1st. Yeah, June 1st. 8 p.m. Central. On A&E. On A&E. Back on A&E. That's awesome. Is it the same night or is it a different night? Sunday nights. Okay. Originally, it was going to be Wednesdays, and then they changed it to Sundays and felt like that was it.

A revival.

Duck Dynasty the Revival. Oh, that is the name.

A&E came up with that. We were throwing out all kinds of things, and they came up with Duck Dynasty the Revival, and we were like, that's really cool. It's got such a spiritual connotation and everything. So that was really cool.

They would have called it Duck Dynasty the Roundabout.

I do have one complaint from a female.

Duck Dynasty the Roundabout. That's it.

It's chaos.

I was like, when I see Ralph, you know what Jason's like, Willie?

But somehow I think he forgot. That's what I'm saying. You did a lot of television. We waited around. You're like the guy who goes to the airport who hasn't flown in a couple years.

It's like having a baby. It's like having a baby. You forget later how difficult it was. You've forgotten.

We waited around a lot. I don't even know what the argument is.

That you asked that? Yeah.

He has a church, not just a believer. He's pastoral.

There is a lot of laughter. It's funny. Yes. Well, these are our, I want to say this, these are our episodes too. Oh, really? So that's a little different. No wonder we went eight hours. So that's why I was about to say that justifies your eight hours. These are our episodes. They should have told me that. So there's a lot, I mean, they film a lot to see what happens. But yes, you laugh a lot.

It's a lot of fun. There's something else I was going to tell about. What was it? Can you talk about it? I don't know if I can talk about it. Can we get Zach to sign off on it? I don't know. Oh, I know the title. So we were throwing all these names. We were saying, like, Duck Dynasty, The Next Generation, because remember, we were big Star Trek fans. Star Trek, The Next Generation.

We tried. We went for it. And I even used the example of, like, Star Trek, The Next Generation was successful. But, you know, it's been done. So anyway, we were coming out with all these names. We were like, Duck Dynasty Reloaded.

True. True. So anyway, Revival is the name, and we love it. I like it. It's really fun. And yeah, it is kind of the next generation, though. It is. It is the next generation of Robertsons.

Do you take any credit for it? Of course.

I mean, if you think about the family, it's different. It's different.

You can just do what you want to do.

Right.

Stick with being yourself. I did realize the other day that y'all are all grandparents now. Yeah, everybody. All five of us. Yeah. So everybody. It's a whole new season of life for sure. It is. We're getting old. But yeah, the generations, I think it's like following the generations and just seeing like a family legacy.

And I will say, too, what you were saying about what's being filmed this week that we can't talk about that. But it's like some of that was birthed on this podcast. Yeah. Those conversations that's happening on this podcast. It's like, oh, you're able to see a little bit more of it in real life.

Alex, you sent the sweetest text.

That was classic Robertson. Robertson can turn anything, like a sweet moment. We had this sweet text from Alex late at night into this.

And you learned. Was that the one with Mia and the, we were just talking about that. That was the coldest.

Exactly. What is wrong with y'all? I'm guilty. What is wrong with y'all?

That was the sweetest text.

I noticed this about Willie. This is recently. I said, I was like, there's about, and this is Indy Robertson. Like there's about three passes in a conversation where it's normal until they say something absurd or like ridiculous. Three, like, you know, you can have a normal, like deep conversation about three passes back. Like I say something, you say something, I say something, and then it's no.

It's going to be something ridiculous.

Thank you for diagnosing that, Zach.

The revival.

The revolution. The reformation. The revolution. The revolution. The roundabout.

Yes, that was terrible.

8 Central, 9 Eastern on A&E. A&E.

For the premier party. We haven't had a premiere party in a while. We have one coming up. You'll get an invitation. I need a place to stay.

It's coming up.

Jump yourself in.

That was fun. See you next time. All right. Love you all. Thanks.

Dr. Amen, yeah.

He likes to just drop the little teases.

That checks out.

That's it. With the best I had. So John Luke turns 30 this year. Reed turns 30. Their brains are about to explode.

It makes sense.

I do love all the science things that are backed up in the Bible, like the things that they knew then that now we know, and it's like, oh, that was actually in the Bible. It's unbelievable.

Wow.

Yeah. It's actually. We can't even see.

Yeah.

That's cool.

That's very cool.

Oh, wow.

Well, that's all. You're not impressed? What does it take to impress you?

Oh, I was. Yeah.

I'm trying to figure out how I can use this.

I did actually read a study one time that said when a, it was like a little thing. It's like when a man looks in the mirror, what he thinks he looks like, and it's like better than what the mirror shows. When a woman looks in the mirror, what she thinks she looks like, and it's worse. I wonder if that's true. I mean, who can actually prove that? But I feel like there's probably something to that.

Still got it.

Yeah.

I think I'm hurt.

When I threw my back out when I sneezed one time, I knew. I was like, I'm in trouble. This is trouble. It's a thing.

So you see what I mean?

And that's, you know, well, the problem, I tell you the problem. The problem is you're used to, you usually start the unashamed podcast with a story. And you're used to. He's used to 32 minutes. You're used to a 32-minute open. And so you're trying to apply that to your sermon, and you end up against the wall.

So, Al, it was the summer of 1995, and me and you sat on a beach in Gulf Shores, Florida maybe, or somewhere around there. Yeah. And you told me about Camp Chioka, and I went, and it changed my life forever. So I want to thank you for that, brother.

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So look, and if you don't think that's important, Matty, that's one thing she does among many other things.

Yeah, the mystery is how the... Specifically in Ephesians is how the Gentiles will be grafted into the family.

Which is the family. Yeah, I tied it all under the umbrella of the family. Yeah, because the way it plays out in the Old Testament is that all peoples at the time was Adam and Eve. That was everybody. So there was no division of peoples until Genesis 11. Everybody was like part of the same race and same – there wasn't a national distinction. And so there's a – the motif is –

Family happens through the fruitful multiplication, right? Be fruitful and multiply. All the families of earth shall be blessed because of Abraham. So you see that running through. And then coinciding with the fruitful multiplication of people is also dominion and cultivation. So when you read the Ephesians passage in Ephesians 1, it's not just the people. It's also the whole creation itself.

So you have the concept of dominion. cultivation of the earth, but that happens through families. I thought about this, this week. Um, I was thinking about, um, you ever known someone like the, they, they had their life together, married couple and their yard. They, they, they had a nice yard. They had a nice house. They kept it clean, whatever.

And then there, some kind of infidelity enters into the marriage. And anytime I've ever seen that happen with friends of mine and the marriage falls apart, I've always noticed that the cultivation and the dominion that they once exercised goes away and chaos enters in. They quit mowing their yard. They quit caring about the house. They quit caring about their business.

They quit caring about all these things and it just gets devoured. I think there's something to this that healthy families, which is the bedrock of civilization, healthy moms and dads raising children together in the and the way of the Lord, that leads to cultivation of crop and gardening. It leads to building things and creating things with the stuff that God's given us.

I think that's kind of the mystery, because when it moves into Ephesians 3, he says very clearly in Ephesians 3, 6, that this mystery is, That the Gentiles are fellow heirs and members of the same body and partakers of the same promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel. So that seems to be the whole thing. So you get to Malachi, for example, and God's what he's like talking about divorce.

I could tell you were a little... Well, the Bible says no man is a prophet in his hometown. So you got up, I mean, you're going into the area to where you may not have... Were you received well?

He says the reason why he hates divorce is because he seeks godly offspring. That's why he hates it, because he seeks to have godly offspring that then will cultivate the new earth and the new heaven. So I think that's the picture that's kind of unfolding.

So, Al, as we get older, the family continues to grow. Kids, grandkids, you're in the grandkid phase now, correct?

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Yeah, and I think Paul makes this point when he talks about the concept of hell in 2 Thessalonians 1. Listen to how he describes it to your point, Jace. He says that when the Lord returns and is revealed from heaven with his mighty angels in flaming fire, So whatever the scene here is, it's kind of scary. Well, what is that?

away from the presence of the lord and from the glory of his might oh yeah when he comes on that day to be glorified in his saints and to be marveled at among all those who have believed because our testimony to you was believed so when you think about it like the two different people groups in the set at the second coming one group is going to be shut out from the presence of the lord which seems to be the description of hell so it's

the emphasis is not on the place. The emphasis is on shut out from the presence of the Lord. The other side, which means they won't be able to do what the saints are going to do, which it says the saints are going to be on that day marveling at Jesus. They will marvel at the glory of Jesus. So the prize is that you're in his presence and you get to marvel at him.

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It's not a shout back. They're not shouting. Except for two or three people. There's a few in there.

Mother's Day sermons are always mothers. You're so amazing. Father's Day sermons are man up.

How long did Jason go? He preached Sunday at church.

I didn't time it.

Look, since what happened. As one of the executive producers on the show, it makes me a little nervous right now.

So are you guys, so are you in Ephesians or this was the introduction?

I mean, 32 minutes is not long at all. I think the sweet spot for a sermon is somewhere around the 48 to 52 minutes.

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