Winston Marshall

So even though he wrote against both Marxist and fascist totalitarianism, buried within there was the seed for a new type of totalitarianism that's, I think, emerged.

So within as well as between societies.

So within as well as between societies.

So within as well as between societies.

With regard to the national identity, forgive me for going there, and what I'm reading from what you're saying, but maybe I've got this wrong, is that there's a correct interplay, a correct sacrifice that the nation should have for the individual and the individual should have had for the nation. There's a certain amount of the individual should give to the nation and the nation in return.

With regard to the national identity, forgive me for going there, and what I'm reading from what you're saying, but maybe I've got this wrong, is that there's a correct interplay, a correct sacrifice that the nation should have for the individual and the individual should have had for the nation. There's a certain amount of the individual should give to the nation and the nation in return.

With regard to the national identity, forgive me for going there, and what I'm reading from what you're saying, but maybe I've got this wrong, is that there's a correct interplay, a correct sacrifice that the nation should have for the individual and the individual should have had for the nation. There's a certain amount of the individual should give to the nation and the nation in return.

So just on that, because the added problem, I think, for the British and the English, if we're going to use biblical terms, is that covenant, you used that. Now, Israel, the Israelites, are going in and out of, if you read through the Old Testament, they're in and out of covenant. They break their covenant with God. Yeah, continually, yeah.

So just on that, because the added problem, I think, for the British and the English, if we're going to use biblical terms, is that covenant, you used that. Now, Israel, the Israelites, are going in and out of, if you read through the Old Testament, they're in and out of covenant. They break their covenant with God. Yeah, continually, yeah.

So just on that, because the added problem, I think, for the British and the English, if we're going to use biblical terms, is that covenant, you used that. Now, Israel, the Israelites, are going in and out of, if you read through the Old Testament, they're in and out of covenant. They break their covenant with God. Yeah, continually, yeah.

Even after Moses brings them to the promised land, then you have, I guess you have Joshua, but then the book of Judges, they break their covenant. They have false gods and they have this chaos. They fragment.

Even after Moses brings them to the promised land, then you have, I guess you have Joshua, but then the book of Judges, they break their covenant. They have false gods and they have this chaos. They fragment.

Even after Moses brings them to the promised land, then you have, I guess you have Joshua, but then the book of Judges, they break their covenant. They have false gods and they have this chaos. They fragment.

Yeah, exactly. So I think that that's kind of what we're experiencing now. But we... we can't quite agree what that covenant is. I mean, it's even taboo now to suggest we're a Christian country. So even though our flag is Christian, even though our national anthem starts with the word God. Your king is head of the church. Our king is head of the church. Nominally.

Yeah, exactly. So I think that that's kind of what we're experiencing now. But we... we can't quite agree what that covenant is. I mean, it's even taboo now to suggest we're a Christian country. So even though our flag is Christian, even though our national anthem starts with the word God. Your king is head of the church. Our king is head of the church. Nominally.

Yeah, exactly. So I think that that's kind of what we're experiencing now. But we... we can't quite agree what that covenant is. I mean, it's even taboo now to suggest we're a Christian country. So even though our flag is Christian, even though our national anthem starts with the word God. Your king is head of the church. Our king is head of the church. Nominally.

That has been tied in with one of the, it's not quite taboo, but it actually was taboo to even say you're a Christian until the last five years or so. When I started in the music industry, I was told, whatever you do, don't tell anyone you're a Christian, even though I wasn't at the time.

That has been tied in with one of the, it's not quite taboo, but it actually was taboo to even say you're a Christian until the last five years or so. When I started in the music industry, I was told, whatever you do, don't tell anyone you're a Christian, even though I wasn't at the time.

That has been tied in with one of the, it's not quite taboo, but it actually was taboo to even say you're a Christian until the last five years or so. When I started in the music industry, I was told, whatever you do, don't tell anyone you're a Christian, even though I wasn't at the time.

And that might have changed, but we are so lost, we have so broken our covenant as a nation with who we were, who founded us, that I guess it's the period of judges. So not only have we, how can we work out what the correct relationship is with the nation where we can't even identify what the nation is?