Winston Weinberg

It completely depends on the client right now.

A, it's jurisdiction by jurisdiction and state by state.

But right now, mostly it is driven like the consensus of it is driven by client by client.

So and that's changed a lot, right?

Like over the past three and a half years, I'd say it's changed every six months, three months, maybe.

where some clients are like, well, you can use it on this.

You can't use it on anything.

Now you can use it on everything.

Right.

And the transition like most generally has been 2023 was don't use it at all or you have to tell me exactly what you're using it for.

Don't use it.

And if you are, you have to tell me exactly how on these like very small use cases.

2024 was you can use it by certain different types of matters.

So like, I'm okay with you using it for IP work, but I'm not okay with for you using it for, you know, something else.

And then 2025 started being, you need to use it, and you need to tell me how you're using it, and how are you saving me money?

I think that there's two reasons for this.

One is the tools at this point do task automation, but they don't do entire workflow automation.

So it's hard to exactly say where the savings are, right?

So my point with this is the tools are not...

at the point where they can automate an entire diligence, right?