Xander

Yeah, we're all hardwired to not do that.

Exactly.

Yeah, but there are plenty of people who would like maybe they're not carrying a firearm.

I know there are plenty of people out there like if they saw something happening and they could just like grab somebody and just beat them to death with a brick if they were pissed off enough and they were in danger, they would probably do it.

Yep.

But if you are carrying a lethal weapon, you need to be prepared to use it and understand how to use it.

Correct.

Right.

And you want, you know, anything here.

And then, well, that kind of that kind of drills in with your I know I know I'm skipping a beat here, but the thing with the law enforcement response, what to expect.

I mean, you don't want a bunch of people running out like hands need to be up and they didn't know who was the shooter and who isn't.

One of the first big successful demonstrations of what happened after Munich.

Ben's brother.

Yep.

Yeah.

That was the first time they used them after Munich.

That was the first time that they had used it.

And that was the first real demonstration to everybody.

Like, yeah, this is how we deal with terrorism.

in an emergency it doesn't matter what kind of emergency someone's gonna panic and panic is contagious and in tebe was like i mean the biggest it's the manure sandwich i mean sometimes they're just gonna unfortunately they're going to be people who are going to be caught in the crossfire that's just it's a chaotic situation um also look at uh look at you know what can be used as a weapon