Yo-El Ju

But an accidental nap is not a good nap.

Mm-hmm.

So it's normal to wake up several times during the night.

And we actually have a word for it, afnar, which is arousal for no apparent reason.

So they're normal.

Afnars are normal.

Arousals and awakenings are normal.

So during a normal night, we go through several rounds of having non-REM sleep and then REM sleep.

And then there is a small awakening at the end of that.

That is completely normal.

And in fact, if someone tells me that they never wake up, I...

think they are the abnormal ones.

So waking up several times is completely normal.

And if people get back to sleep within a few minutes, again, that's totally normal.

That's just normal human sleep.

So I think trying to...

you know, take whatever measures necessary or taking medication or doing whatever to try to get rid of those awakenings, I think that does more harm than good.

You know, you can imagine that from an evolutionary standpoint,

we do need to kinda like wake up a little bit once in a while, right?

So if predators are taking care of babies or other people, we do need to be able to wake up in our sleep, right?