Yomi Ṣode

And this is not necessarily a plea to be like, oh, give us a break.

Just give us a moment.

But it's just like, let's really look at what these parallels really say.

And then let's discuss it as a group in an open conversation.

Because it might be in your face and you don't know it until you actually read a book like Mannerism.

Until you actually look at a documentary and see, you know what?

The politics of what we're talking about in Grace, actually, it's...

swings around abouts it kind of flows ebbs and flows to a certain degree you know so that was just my thing with grace is it's not necessarily to make people uncomfortable but it's just to make people consider to what degree they apply it and to who and is someone deserving of grace or do you feel like we're all deserving of grace

It was before Caravaggio, actually, because originally I was looking at mannerist painters, because I was looking for behavioural traits with mannerism.

I kept on coming across painting.

I was just like, what is going on?

It was so annoying!

So I came across Caravaggio after the Mannerist Painters, actually, because my actual, the first kind of study and research was around Mannerist Painters, because I was really interested in them.

And the title of your book is Mannerism.

So I still, yeah, because I was trying to see what can, because the original title was Mannerism, Mannerism.

And then I'm like, oh, that's too much work.

But yes, with the form, I just really love the idea that I'm looking at this chair right here, but I'm not writing about this chair.

I'm going to wherever it takes me.

And I have to actually allow myself to lean into a poetic form and not be so rigid in the confines of it, you know.

I have to kind of be liberated and be free in it, you know.