Yusra Elbagir

There's an interest in his son being his successor.

There's an interest in kind of keeping everything within the family and keeping everything kind of held within the national resistance movement.

But there's also something really, you know, watching NRM celebrate in the election hall, in the tally center when they won the election was...

this feeling that it doesn't really have any meaning anymore.

You know, these wins, there's just an entitlement to it that they're just holding onto rather than actually recovering anything.

And I'll just go to one thing.

When the ANC lost their majority in the 2024 election, I remember interviewing an MK vet who was the minister of defense.

in that administration before the government of national unity.

And I said to her, how do you feel that the ANC has lost their majority?

How do you feel that you've lost?

She was like, we're the ones who created this democracy.

We're the ones who gave people the right to vote.

And she was very angry.

And so it just really comes down to that as we built it, we hold onto it and we can destroy anything to do that.

I think there's a lot of frustration and that's regional, right?

It's also in Kenya.

It's also in Tanzania.

There's this regional Gen Z angst about what they're kind of left to deal with and the fact that actually they inherit all the issues in these countries.

And then they don't have any say in how the countries are governed.

Because Uganda, I mean, President Museveni spoke about the economic growth, and he had those statistics immediately to hand.