Zac Smith

So that way you had a computer, you slid it into a rack, and you would be able to plug – liquid loop into it. And the idea here was that if we could standardize that interface, as well as some of the more complicated stuff around fluid, like flow rates and pressures, that the industry could more holistically adopt liquid cooling, which is dramatically more efficient in terms of removing heat and

So that way you had a computer, you slid it into a rack, and you would be able to plug – liquid loop into it. And the idea here was that if we could standardize that interface, as well as some of the more complicated stuff around fluid, like flow rates and pressures, that the industry could more holistically adopt liquid cooling, which is dramatically more efficient in terms of removing heat and

and using less energy in data centers. And it seems almost obvious, except for computer manufacturers release computers every one to two years, data centers change every 20 to 30 years. They're on very different timeframes, so there needed to be more of an open standard.

and using less energy in data centers. And it seems almost obvious, except for computer manufacturers release computers every one to two years, data centers change every 20 to 30 years. They're on very different timeframes, so there needed to be more of an open standard.

So we've been working on that, working along with the OCP crew, as well as different organizations and the Green Software Foundation.

So we've been working on that, working along with the OCP crew, as well as different organizations and the Green Software Foundation.

which is also in Linux Foundation, to just try and figure out how this standard, which is published under what's called the JDF, Joint Development Foundation, a little bit different than open source software, which you can actually put in GitHub and put like a BSD license or Apache license on. You can't do that for just words on drawings on a spec.

which is also in Linux Foundation, to just try and figure out how this standard, which is published under what's called the JDF, Joint Development Foundation, a little bit different than open source software, which you can actually put in GitHub and put like a BSD license or Apache license on. You can't do that for just words on drawings on a spec.

And so we worked with Linux Foundation on the JDF, which has been awesome. And, you know, I'm not, I wish we were more successful, meaning I wish it was more common, but I can see, yeah, like a ton of the work we've done has been adopted and consumed in practice or in some sort of principle, like the new NVIDIA stuff looks basically like what we did, which is great.

And so we worked with Linux Foundation on the JDF, which has been awesome. And, you know, I'm not, I wish we were more successful, meaning I wish it was more common, but I can see, yeah, like a ton of the work we've done has been adopted and consumed in practice or in some sort of principle, like the new NVIDIA stuff looks basically like what we did, which is great.

They're taking inspiration from that. OCP's new liquid cooling side for its hyperscale customers looks very similar. So I think the supply chain is starting to really gel around this. My hope is that Cisco, Dell, HPE, and the longer tail of the data center industry can kind of align.

They're taking inspiration from that. OCP's new liquid cooling side for its hyperscale customers looks very similar. So I think the supply chain is starting to really gel around this. My hope is that Cisco, Dell, HPE, and the longer tail of the data center industry can kind of align.

towards a standard versus trying to think that being proprietary differentiates themselves which it doesn't it just makes it harder for everybody so i'm hopeful that we'll get there but i'm not you know doesn't move fast sure community-based organizations where everybody gets to have a say they move slow you know but that's okay

towards a standard versus trying to think that being proprietary differentiates themselves which it doesn't it just makes it harder for everybody so i'm hopeful that we'll get there but i'm not you know doesn't move fast sure community-based organizations where everybody gets to have a say they move slow you know but that's okay

Located adjacent to.

Located adjacent to.

Absolutely. I mean, that's why I wouldn't build a data center right now. It's because where is my time and energy best spent when I can – think outside the box a little bit, right?

Absolutely. I mean, that's why I wouldn't build a data center right now. It's because where is my time and energy best spent when I can – think outside the box a little bit, right?

Move about the cabin, as my brother likes to say, which has been super useful because I'm not stuck within an existing organization that has to answer to its shareholders this quarter and do this and that, but I still have touch points and trust within it. So areas that I've been focused on there, and I totally agree with you, Adam, that we can take these areas.

Move about the cabin, as my brother likes to say, which has been super useful because I'm not stuck within an existing organization that has to answer to its shareholders this quarter and do this and that, but I still have touch points and trust within it. So areas that I've been focused on there, and I totally agree with you, Adam, that we can take these areas.