Zac Smith
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I've always believed in building businesses was about building a bigger tent, right? Right. It's like, how do you create more opportunity? That's good for society. It's not just about how do you create something that's valuable? How do you create opportunity that people can?
I've always believed in building businesses was about building a bigger tent, right? Right. It's like, how do you create more opportunity? That's good for society. It's not just about how do you create something that's valuable? How do you create opportunity that people can?
I mean, the biggest joy I've had out of building several companies has not been the money I've made, although that hasn't hurt. It's been that, you know, a thousand people said, wow, I got to have careers that started here. Right. Or like, I grew up my family because I worked at this company. That is awesome to me. So I like the bigger tent policy of creation.
I mean, the biggest joy I've had out of building several companies has not been the money I've made, although that hasn't hurt. It's been that, you know, a thousand people said, wow, I got to have careers that started here. Right. Or like, I grew up my family because I worked at this company. That is awesome to me. So I like the bigger tent policy of creation.
But where I was referring to earlier related to aligning civic infrastructure, like energy, with the... Awesome capitalistic movement. If you can harness that stallion called hundreds of billions of dollars going into digital infrastructure right now and use it towards the right thing, well, shoot, that's amazing. That can benefit society in way bigger ways than...
But where I was referring to earlier related to aligning civic infrastructure, like energy, with the... Awesome capitalistic movement. If you can harness that stallion called hundreds of billions of dollars going into digital infrastructure right now and use it towards the right thing, well, shoot, that's amazing. That can benefit society in way bigger ways than...
I got chat GPT or the AI can answer my thingamajiggers or target my ads better, right? It can say, wow, that helped decarbonize a whole bunch of our grid. Or on the water side, I'm invested in a hydrogen-based data center business, which I believe to be a foundation. I just got back from the Atacama Desert in Chile, which has this project too.
I got chat GPT or the AI can answer my thingamajiggers or target my ads better, right? It can say, wow, that helped decarbonize a whole bunch of our grid. Or on the water side, I'm invested in a hydrogen-based data center business, which I believe to be a foundation. I just got back from the Atacama Desert in Chile, which has this project too.
It's like has the highest solar radiation percentage annually of any place on earth. Why? Because it's so high, it's so dry, and it's so sunny. And it's only a couple hundred miles from the Pacific Ocean. They have this plan to create basically the Saudi Arabia of hydrogen there with this like huge amount of energy they can produce that they can turn into a portable fuel.
It's like has the highest solar radiation percentage annually of any place on earth. Why? Because it's so high, it's so dry, and it's so sunny. And it's only a couple hundred miles from the Pacific Ocean. They have this plan to create basically the Saudi Arabia of hydrogen there with this like huge amount of energy they can produce that they can turn into a portable fuel.
That when you burn hydrogen, what do you create? Water. And it's pretty amazing. We built a test or not we, but you've all in the ECL team built the test site over in Mountain View. They have a one megawatt hydrogen-based data center. It produces hundreds of gallons a day of water. That's the byproduct, right?
That when you burn hydrogen, what do you create? Water. And it's pretty amazing. We built a test or not we, but you've all in the ECL team built the test site over in Mountain View. They have a one megawatt hydrogen-based data center. It produces hundreds of gallons a day of water. That's the byproduct, right?
Versus a normal data center, which uses thousands of gallons of water a day through evaporative cooling. Sometimes millions. I think there is really an opportunity to take existing technology, whether those are like battery storage technologies, for example, been exploring a heat-based, like a thermal long storage solution. These are awesome opportunities.
Versus a normal data center, which uses thousands of gallons of water a day through evaporative cooling. Sometimes millions. I think there is really an opportunity to take existing technology, whether those are like battery storage technologies, for example, been exploring a heat-based, like a thermal long storage solution. These are awesome opportunities.
Your data centers create heat and also use a bunch of energy, but they can store energy, which is really important. So I think that there's some ways that we can start thinking, and my challenge is how to activate that between, The let's call it sub 50 people who build and operate all the data centers in the world, the capital that flows around it.
Your data centers create heat and also use a bunch of energy, but they can store energy, which is really important. So I think that there's some ways that we can start thinking, and my challenge is how to activate that between, The let's call it sub 50 people who build and operate all the data centers in the world, the capital that flows around it.
And some of these weird innovation things that are so hard for that group to see because it's not part of their big scaled organization and how they've always done it. Right. Like there's almost what was the thing? I was discussing somebody who was building a new data center in a far off place. And I was like, why are you building it with all these standard rows and no storage space?
And some of these weird innovation things that are so hard for that group to see because it's not part of their big scaled organization and how they've always done it. Right. Like there's almost what was the thing? I was discussing somebody who was building a new data center in a far off place. And I was like, why are you building it with all these standard rows and no storage space?
And I was like, you realize nobody's ever going to go there. It's in South Africa. It's like 16 hours on a plane ride from Paris. You know, like nobody's going to the data center. Why are you not building it for robots? And like, you know, five lights out people who are going to rack and stack everything. And they're like, well, we always build it this way. Why would we change that?
And I was like, you realize nobody's ever going to go there. It's in South Africa. It's like 16 hours on a plane ride from Paris. You know, like nobody's going to the data center. Why are you not building it for robots? And like, you know, five lights out people who are going to rack and stack everything. And they're like, well, we always build it this way. Why would we change that?