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Zach Dell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
901 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Why do we install them ourselves from our own warehouses with our electricians?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Why do we own them on the balance sheet and finance them at the portfolio level?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Why do we sell the power ourselves?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Why do we trade the power ourselves?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Because by doing it ourselves, we can take costs out of each part of the equation, which drives our returns up, which drives the cost that we have to charge the homeowner down.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

In a commodity industry, your North Star has to be delivering the commodity to the customer at the lowest price possible.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And that is our North Star.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We want to be in a position where we can land a battery and eventually a solar panel on the grid cheaper than anyone on the planet on a dollar per kilowatt hour basis, which means that we can sell an electron cheaper than anyone on the planet on a dollar per kilowatt hour basis.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And that's really the vector

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Today, it costs us on the order of $10,000 to get a battery in the ground.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And that's inclusive of the bomb cost of the hardware.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We could talk about the battery, the inverter, all the pieces that go into that, the installation costs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So getting a truck out to the house and having two electricians on site for four to six hours, and then the cost to acquire the customer.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So that's today about $10,000.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

The customer pays $500 upfront, and then we receive a tax credit, an ITC as part of the IRA, for up to 30% of the cost of the project.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

That goes to 40% in some parts of Texas that are considered energy communities.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Most of our installs are in that area, but for simplicity, let's call it 30%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So if it costs us $10,000, we're getting $3,000 back in the form of tax credit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

The customer's paying 500 upfront.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So you have on the order of $6,500 of cost on a totally unlevered basis.