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Zach Dell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
901 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Now, Texas ended up carrying the torch

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

and deregulating their power grid entirely.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so now what you have is Texas as this laboratory for energy innovation.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Now what we see is Texas is the leader in wind and solar and broadly energy technology in the country.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Now, it also happens to be in the middle of the Sun Belt, in the middle of the wind corridor.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so geographically, it's a very good place for those assets.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

But the competitive dynamics in that market have led to a bunch of innovation and technology.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

That's a big reason why we're based here.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Let's start with the power bill.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So your power bill, and this obviously varies by geography, and I'm going to oversimplify here, but is roughly half the cost to generate the power and half the cost to move the power.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

We talked about how there's a real-time system.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So you have to get power from where it's generated to where it's consumed in real time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

The cost of moving power across the transmission grid and the distribution grid has gone up really significantly in the last couple of decades, primarily because this infrastructure is really aging.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

The way that this infrastructure is built out and upgraded in the regulated utility markets

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

is utilities will basically propose CapEx to their public utility commission, which then gets added into their rate base.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So if I'm a utility and I want to go build out infrastructure or transmission or distribution,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

I say, hey, I want to go build X, PUC approves it, and then X gets added into my rate base, and that number is divided by the amount of rate payers or customers, and that is what you pay on a per kilowatt hour basis for electricity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

What you have is this incentive for the utilities to build, not to innovate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Because they're actually incentivized not to innovate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

If they show up to the PUC with some kind of new technology that's unproven, which is kind of the definition of innovation, the PUC says, well, that's not a very good use of dollars, and that's too risky, and we're not going to approve that.