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Zach Dell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
901 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

What you have is this incentive to build, where you're earning a rate of return, a regulated rate of return, return on equity on the CapEx that you deploy.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

The more CapEx you deploy, the more return you generate for the shareholders.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And so you've just seen this massive growth in rate basis, but conversely in electricity prices due to this incentive structure.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

In terms of where the profit pool sit, on the regulated utility side, you have this return on equity concept and rate-based concept.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And then you have the IPPs and the generators.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And these are really a function of the deregulated

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

parts of the market, but also you have IPPs in regulated parts of the market that are able to sell power to the generators.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And this is a supply-demand game.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

You build a gas plant, you build a solar farm, you build a wind farm, and you're bidding that capacity into the wholesale markets.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

There's really two parts of the wholesale market.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

There's the real-time spot market, and then there's the day-ahead market.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

There's a futures market.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And the objective for an energy developer is to generate power at the lowest cost possible.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

Electron is electron.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

There's no special electrons.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

So my electron and your electron are priced in the same way.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

It's a cost game.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

When you talk about different forms of energy generation, wind, solar, natural gas, coal, nuclear, geothermal, hydroelectric, et cetera, really what it comes down to is cost.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

And here in the industry, it's referred to as levelized cost of energy, LCOE.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]

That is the core metric.