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Zach Lloyd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
730 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Let's just say that for a second.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And so I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble with investors or whatever for being so candid.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

No, but let's say they get a lot of it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And so what we're doing, again, because it's growing so fast, which I think is good, I think it makes sense to be like, how do we make the usage of these models more efficient?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

How do we change our pricing so that it's more aligned with customer value?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

So we make more money as users use Warp more, not less money as users use Warp more.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

It's a big focus for us right now.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

The trick is like, can we do it without harming growth?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

You know, that's like where this question of like maybe the smarter thing for us to do is to like just take it to a certain point, keep growing, raise more capital.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

What does Andrew say?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Andrew says we are in an awesome spot and should like get the margins a little bit better and then raise more capital.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

basically that's such a VC thing is but hey keep growth high but get better margins and then basically Andrew's not in there being like well what we could change the number of requests we offer on this plan by why it's he's like you know he's like we're doing awesome we have a thing people love don't fuck that up first of all like don't fuck that up make the product even more compelling

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Because I will say, we're not competing on price.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

So here's where I would be worried about margins if I were in this space.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

If we were reselling Claude for $0.75 on the dollar or whatever, it's like, what's the point of being in that business?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

We're not perceived as inexpensive.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

We're like a premium product for people who are doing serious coding.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And it's still very expensive because we're somewhat inefficient in terms of how we do it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

If we were competing on price, I would say like, let's just find a different business.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Or you have to, you have got to be really strategic and find the right cohorts that are paying, that are like super profitable.