Zach Lloyd

anchored on sort of the beauty of the engineering and trying to get the engineering perfect.

And if you don't have a product that anyone cares about, I think like that's a crazy place to be spending your time at the beginning of a company.

It should all be around like, can I build something that people want to use?

And there's a engineering mindset mistake I think that people will make where it's like, well, they don't want to use it because the performance isn't like 30% better.

That's not a good place to spend time.

I think Google's at risk.

Like I would never have said that five, 10 years ago.

I find myself using ChatGPT more and more.

And so I think they have big innovators dilemma problem.

This isn't directly answering your talent question, but I think it's more of like incentives where it seems like they're really slow on AI is like my take.

I'm definitely not impressed by how Gemini is integrated into their consumer products.

I think Gemini as a model is good.

It's in the three models that we care about at Warp are Gemini, GPT-5, and Claude.

So it's there.

I don't know, they had a lead.

They wrote the paper on Transformers.

It's not an awesome outcome from my standpoint.

And then from like a talent perspective, there's still a ton of very, very smart people at Google.

It just seems like a super risk averse place to me right now.

Like the people I know who I respect a lot, to be clear, are by and large staying at Google because they're super well compensated.