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Zach Lloyd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
730 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

We were like,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

You know, it was a free product at that point with good user growth, but not really like a good business model or not a business.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Like we weren't even monetizing.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

You weren't monetizing at the B. We were not monetizing at the B. This is this was so this was another frothy, crazy period.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Right.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

So this was like pre-AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And I don't know if I speak for Andrew, but I think Andrew again was like there's some amount of pattern matching.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And then I think he liked me.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And I think he liked that we were building a really hard app in a big market.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And so they invested very early.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

How much did he invest?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

How much was the round?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

That was a $50 million round.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Which I think, by the way, he's going to look very smart.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

We talked about it for a long time.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

Again, I'm probably unusually transparent for founder here.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

But we're a terminal company, which is not a real market, just to be clear.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And so it's very much like we're displacing a free product

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

The thesis of warp was like, Hey, there's this, there's this tool that, you know, every developer uses every single day that kind of sucks.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: The Startup Adding $1M ARR Every Week | Competing Against OpenAI's Codex and Claude Code: Who Wins | Why Gemini is Failing and GPT-5 Is Winning | Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | The Ugly Truth About AI Coding with Zach Lloyd, Warp

And like, I still believe this, there's a much better version of this that could exist.