Zach Lloyd

I think we're going to have to do one of these like competitive ones at some point.

So I think it would be like kind of arrogant to be like, oh, I hate this.

Like, it's like, no, it's cool.

People, you're running a business and people are interested in giving you money.

I think that is not the default case for most people in the world.

And so like for me to be like, oh, I don't, that's so annoying.

No, it's great.

It's awesome to have the interest from a like how to manage it as a founder.

I just basically don't take the calls.

right now.

I'll do them once in a while to just like gauge like the market and like where we're at.

But I have a strong feeling that like when we do it, I'm not going to do it based on an inbound email.

I'm going to do it based on like either existing investors or they're going to introduce me to someone who I like I'm optimizing for the relationship.

Right.

And so it's hard to get that from just like a sales pitch over an email.

I knew we were going to get along.

I'm concerned that I've been too open, but I think it's going to be interesting for people listening.

I'm very unfiltered.

Mark Benioff's my cousin.

So, yes.