Zach Lloyd

It's like we literally have a whole bunch of benchmarks.

We run SweetBench.

We run TerminalBench.

Claude and GPT-5 are the two best.

Claude, they have different personalities, which is kind of interesting.

When you're using them for coding, Claude's a little friendlier.

GPT-5 is a little bit more like...

Let me do a whole bunch of thinking.

It takes a long time is my biggest issue with it.

But then it tends to come back with something that's really good.

And at the moment, Gemini, which is on 2.5, and I'm sure they're working on Gemini 3, is not as good.

I would say that GPT wins consumer.

I don't know who wins enterprise.

I think developers is open.

I'm biased here because the situation that I want actually is competitive dynamic at the model layer for all the coding models.

I don't know that anyone has like a super strong moat at the API layer, just to be totally clear.

Yeah.

So just in the development space, I think the market is going to be there's going to be two pieces to it.

So there's going to be like a set of interactive productivity tools.

So think of like things that developers literally are using.