Zach Smith

The number one role I have is being an objective expert.

There's a database of years of hearing what the problems are and then also the discussion about how to fix them.

Think about what it would be like to do this all day.

You're kind of standing and talking and interacting with people and it's very socially engaging.

You know, I'll fit for like three hours and then I'll get in my car and I'll go somewhere and fit.

And then with smaller brands, I can be like, the only time I can fit is tonight.

So I'll fit at night.

And so there's days where I fit for 12 hours.

But even my serving, if I serve too much, the lats get a little bigger, and so it's like, and lats affect your chest circumference.

And the big fear for Zach, and for all fit models, is asymmetry.

Like with snowboarding, I will literally halfway through the day be like, I'm going to ride the other direction the rest of the day.

I'm going to ride switch the rest of the day purely out of symmetry because I don't want to create imbalances in my body.

I really appreciate you saying that.

It's good for my ego, but I know that it's not true.

I have this conversation a lot about vanity sizing with men's specifically, but it is confusing to find things that fit you.

Smaller brands, they'll come to me and be like,

Well, you know, we want a 32-32 pair of denim and we want it to measure 32.

And I'd be like, great.

Six months down the road, the returns are through the roof.

And it's actually a very valid reason.