Zeb Evans

I actually, so I had my third near death experience and

I realized during that period that that business was not adding net positive value for the world.

I actually felt bad about it.

I was like, we were inflating people's egos on social media.

And we spent four years of my life doing that.

And so I felt like I had wasted so much time.

And so we shut it down.

We paid everybody six months at the company, but we shut the company down.

And that was when I moved out to Palo Alto, drove across the country from Virginia and thought that,

I got to Palo Alto.

I was picturing Vegas with startup lights, just like startups everywhere.

And anybody that's been to Palo Alto, it's like the sleepiest town in the world.

In fact, they have an ordinance against putting signs up.

The sweet green in the ice cream shops.

Yes, that's exactly right.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So that was, it was, I mean, we, we got to a point where, you know, there was, we had like 25 grand left in the bank account.

And so that was like enough for another month, another month's runway really.

And I had a little bit of money left, but not much.