Zeke Hernandez

That is, immigration is good for us, not just for the movers.

It's good for the receivers, right?

And it's good for us for the economic reasons and social and other reasons we've been talking about for the health.

reasons that Sonia mentioned.

Once you start with that premise that immigration is good for us, then you have a third possibility that's neither villain nor victim.

It's that immigrants are essential for our health and prosperity in every possible way.

Once that message is taken along, then we can design the systems and we can change mindsets.

What I find remarkable is that there's almost no political parties in the world

that have that positive premise in their immigration platform.

Certainly, it's not true of Democrats or Republicans in the U.S., and it's not true of almost any party that I know of in Europe or Australia or anywhere.

And so I think that's the opportunity.

The good news is, though, that the empirical evidence is very much in favor of that third message that immigrants are good for us.

So it's not just rhetoric.

It's really fact.

If we start there, I think the rest will follow.

And I'm not naive in that, of course, there's a lot of

politicking and hard work involved in changing public opinion, but that's the start.

We need a better message.

Yeah, I think that the good news here is that we can have our moral cake and eat it too.

That is, we can do what's morally right and humane and do what's good for us, right?