Zeke Hernandez

In this case, morality and self-interest are aligned.

And so because of that, I would say that we want to build policies around our self-interest.

Think about what you want for a successful community, for a successful country.

You want a vibrant labor market.

You want a lot of innovation.

You want people that bring in healthy bodies, like Sonia was saying earlier.

And so I think that we have to start with the reality that we need more immigrants.

At least most countries do.

And so we could double or triple the number of immigrants that we allow, and we would be fine.

In fact, we would increase economic prosperity and job creation because of that.

increasing the flows.

It turns out we don't need to do too much in terms of spending our public coffers on providing benefits.

A lot of European countries have the fallacy that the only humane or proper way to welcome immigrants is to spend a lot of money on housing and language lessons and put them all in the same neighborhood.

And actually that kind of backfires because immigrants become kind of coddled and isolated instead of just naturally interacting with their neighbors.

And so in an interesting way, we have to sort of get out of the way.

The one thing we do have to do deliberately though is build infrastructure, right?

So building housing, building roads, building up in big cities rather than having very restrictive zoning laws.

So I would say actually that housing and infrastructure development are like the policies I would focus on rather than immigration policy per se, if that makes sense, right?

If you let people flow,

And we need to increase the quotas compared to what we have now.