Zeke Hernandez

And so it's not just economics, it's not just ecology, it's also just safety, right?

Which is turning the message completely on its head because so much of the villain message is that immigrants are a safety threat when they're exactly the opposite.

Yeah, I mean, that's really, really well said.

I hope I can add to that.

But related to that, I think that, look, I spend a reasonable amount of time speaking to journalists and to the media.

I think they're doing the job the best they can.

But unfortunately, we as consumers of media love sensational stories, right?

And so the story of some disorder at some border is

will get eyeballs, but the story of, hey, regular everyday migrant goes to work, pays taxes, contributes to their community, is a good person, helps a little lady cross the street, that doesn't make the headlines.

But in reality, like the vast majority of immigration is just that, everyday people doing the right thing.

And also the vast majority of immigration is orderly and regular and not chaotic.

And so I think that unfortunately, because of the incentives that the media has, because of what we consume, there's this very distorted reporting of the kinds of immigration that happens and what it does.

So that would be number one is just

Find a way to report the average everyday normal things that migrants do, just like normal people do.

Second is that we're too obsessed with how people arrive at our borders and not obsessed enough with what they do once they're inside.

And once you understand what they do when they're inside, which is overwhelmingly good, it's much easier to have conversations about how to manage the arrival process.

The problem is we get it exactly backwards.

We obsess so much about how they arrive, we never talk about what they do.

And then the third is, you know, stop with the villain and victim dichotomy.

Focus on how immigrants are good for us.