Zeke Hernandez

You need 2.1

you need a fertility rate of 2.1 on average to just maintain the population.

In most countries, we're well, well below 2.

And there is no other source of economic growth, of fiscal security.

There's no other source of just maintaining our resources than people.

And so for a long time, the world population has been growing.

That is going to plateau.

And so...

there's going to be a lot of competition for talent and for people.

And so I think we're going to look back at this moment and kind of scoff, right?

I'm not saying maybe in five years, but definitely by the time my kids are adults, I think we're going to be scoffing at this moment because countries are going to be...

putting in place, putting in programs, excuse me, out of sheer demographic desperation to attract more people, at least wealthier countries will.

So I think we're going to see a lot more immigration openness.

And then if you couple that with climate change and kind of these push factors like war, there's going to be more, I think, more movement and probably, you know, ironically, perhaps more orderly than now, just because the need on the receiving side is going to be much, much bigger.

That's my sense of where we're going.

I don't know if I answered the full question you asked.

Yeah, I mean, I think that we've made a huge mistake in the narratives that we tell ourselves about immigrants, which deeply affect the sentiment.

And the way I often put it is that basically there are two stories that we have told ourselves and people believe sort of one of the two.

The first is the immigrants as villains, the villain story, right?

That immigrants are here to, you know, take your job and, you know, steal your house and your car, right?