Zephyr Teachout

And I think sometimes people think of anti-monopoly as anti-business and we're like, no, we're the first pro-business real movement in a long time. It's just, it's not the choke point businesses that like you note in other contexts, the problem of choke points is they innervate. Like why even bother make a new eco diaper if you're just going to get crushed?

And I think sometimes people think of anti-monopoly as anti-business and we're like, no, we're the first pro-business real movement in a long time. It's just, it's not the choke point businesses that like you note in other contexts, the problem of choke points is they innervate. Like why even bother make a new eco diaper if you're just going to get crushed?

Yeah, I don't think that there is a single silver bullet answer. You know, like these are the precise criteria. I think just to sort of repeat what you said, I think there is good reason to be skeptical if you see a pattern. But the Democratic Party, and this is maybe a meta version of your micro question, I think the Democratic Party needs a North Star that is not rejecting Trump.

Yeah, I don't think that there is a single silver bullet answer. You know, like these are the precise criteria. I think just to sort of repeat what you said, I think there is good reason to be skeptical if you see a pattern. But the Democratic Party, and this is maybe a meta version of your micro question, I think the Democratic Party needs a North Star that is not rejecting Trump.

I think we all probably agree with that. Yes. And I think the North Star should be standing up to monopolistic middlemen that are crushing people's wages, raising their prices, and stopping innovation in a dynamic society. And those who want to come in to join that North Star, we should welcome with open arms.

I think we all probably agree with that. Yes. And I think the North Star should be standing up to monopolistic middlemen that are crushing people's wages, raising their prices, and stopping innovation in a dynamic society. And those who want to come in to join that North Star, we should welcome with open arms.

And so when it comes to particular appointments, I mean, Jonathan Cantor came from big law and did an incredible job. Jonathan Cantor was the AAG of antitrust.

And so when it comes to particular appointments, I mean, Jonathan Cantor came from big law and did an incredible job. Jonathan Cantor was the AAG of antitrust.

Oh, the assistant attorney general. He was in charge of Department of Justice antitrust under Biden. And even if you don't know his name, you are living in Jonathan Cantor's world these few weeks because we have the biggest antitrust trials in 30 years happening, with Google being found a monopolist now three times, looking towards a breakup, a really powerful, dynamic...

Oh, the assistant attorney general. He was in charge of Department of Justice antitrust under Biden. And even if you don't know his name, you are living in Jonathan Cantor's world these few weeks because we have the biggest antitrust trials in 30 years happening, with Google being found a monopolist now three times, looking towards a breakup, a really powerful, dynamic...

very, very effective head of antitrust under Biden. And he came from industry. So I don't think there's a single answer here.

very, very effective head of antitrust under Biden. And he came from industry. So I don't think there's a single answer here.

I don't think that anti-monopoly can solve significant problems of racism in this country. I don't think anti-monopoly can solve toxins in our water, although I think there's an anti-monopoly. I'm immediately like, yeah, but there's an anti-monopoly component right there. And then having said that, right, there's a reason that Frederick Douglass and Du Bois were so concerned about monopoly power.

I don't think that anti-monopoly can solve significant problems of racism in this country. I don't think anti-monopoly can solve toxins in our water, although I think there's an anti-monopoly. I'm immediately like, yeah, but there's an anti-monopoly component right there. And then having said that, right, there's a reason that Frederick Douglass and Du Bois were so concerned about monopoly power.

Like there is a... Stay on what I can't solve for a minute.

Like there is a... Stay on what I can't solve for a minute.

Right. So maybe what I would ask then, so what I ask as an anti-monopolist, and anti-monopoly isn't antitrust. I hope you know that. I do know that.

Right. So maybe what I would ask then, so what I ask as an anti-monopolist, and anti-monopoly isn't antitrust. I hope you know that. I do know that.

Yeah, it's a democracy vision.

Yeah, it's a democracy vision.