Zoe Gardner

So when I talk about integration, that's the kind of thing I mean. And then just finally, over the longer term, what you really need to look at is changing the face of our immigration system to one that works with the reality of migration. So people will move because they need solutions because they're fleeing from danger. We desperately need people. We have an aging population, you

So when I talk about integration, that's the kind of thing I mean. And then just finally, over the longer term, what you really need to look at is changing the face of our immigration system to one that works with the reality of migration. So people will move because they need solutions because they're fleeing from danger. We desperately need people. We have an aging population, you

Healthcare workers, all of these people, farm workers, we need them. We actually go out and quite aggressively recruit for those people in some countries and at the same time push away other people. We need to recalibrate over time our immigration system to reflect the needs of the people who migrate as well as the needs of the country.

Healthcare workers, all of these people, farm workers, we need them. We actually go out and quite aggressively recruit for those people in some countries and at the same time push away other people. We need to recalibrate over time our immigration system to reflect the needs of the people who migrate as well as the needs of the country.