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Zoe Gardner

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Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

So, obviously, that's quite a big question.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

So, obviously, that's quite a big question.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

30 seconds is just like being on Good Morning Britain.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

30 seconds is just like being on Good Morning Britain.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Seriously though, there's the immediate term and then there's the longer term, right? So in the immediate term, if I was advising Keir Starmer and I know that he, you know, hangs on my every word.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Seriously though, there's the immediate term and then there's the longer term, right? So in the immediate term, if I was advising Keir Starmer and I know that he, you know, hangs on my every word.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Oh, yeah. Obviously.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Oh, yeah. Obviously.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

At my Twitter feed. Why wouldn't he be? Okay. Immediately speaking, you need to decrease the salience of a tiny, small, small proportion of immigration, which is refugees and asylum seekers. 5.5% of the people who came to the UK last year came on a small boat. 5.5%, slightly disproportionate coverage in media and attention from government. Fucking hell. Just calm it, the ever-loving fuck down.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

At my Twitter feed. Why wouldn't he be? Okay. Immediately speaking, you need to decrease the salience of a tiny, small, small proportion of immigration, which is refugees and asylum seekers. 5.5% of the people who came to the UK last year came on a small boat. 5.5%, slightly disproportionate coverage in media and attention from government. Fucking hell. Just calm it, the ever-loving fuck down.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Sorry. But just stop making your policy be driven by those people. Stop performatively trying to detain them and lock them up and work on European-wide solutions to share responsibility for safe routes for people to reach protection. But keep it in its place and then move on the fact that our real, the bulk of immigration is people coming for work.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Sorry. But just stop making your policy be driven by those people. Stop performatively trying to detain them and lock them up and work on European-wide solutions to share responsibility for safe routes for people to reach protection. But keep it in its place and then move on the fact that our real, the bulk of immigration is people coming for work.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

And our immigration system forces people into exploitation and low pay because of the way it's structured. And I'm not going to get into that whole detail there. But please, guys, follow me on everything and I'll tell you all about it. And then finally, we need to talk about a word that's a little bit uncomfortable in these circles, but I don't know a better word for it. It's integration, right?

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

And our immigration system forces people into exploitation and low pay because of the way it's structured. And I'm not going to get into that whole detail there. But please, guys, follow me on everything and I'll tell you all about it. And then finally, we need to talk about a word that's a little bit uncomfortable in these circles, but I don't know a better word for it. It's integration, right?

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Now, on the left, people get like, why should people have to integrate? Integration goes both ways. Yes, integration goes both ways, right? And some of the least integrated people into British society are the richest, right? All of that is true, but I think we need to talk about integrated communities and

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Now, on the left, people get like, why should people have to integrate? Integration goes both ways. Yes, integration goes both ways, right? And some of the least integrated people into British society are the richest, right? All of that is true, but I think we need to talk about integrated communities and

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

and how our immigration system stops migrants from being able to put down roots and become full members of our communities because it keeps people in a temporary status for a really long time. It separates people out from the welfare state. It separates people out from... all sorts of ways in which we become entwined in each other's lives.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

and how our immigration system stops migrants from being able to put down roots and become full members of our communities because it keeps people in a temporary status for a really long time. It separates people out from the welfare state. It separates people out from... all sorts of ways in which we become entwined in each other's lives.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Things like the most family-unfriendly immigration system that you could possibly imagine. British people who are married to people who were born abroad. And God forbid you fall in love with a foreigner. You have these insane income requirements and incredibly onerous bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through. That's like... families that we are keeping apart through our immigration system.

Pod Save the UK
Starmer’s Garm Drama + the Government looks right on immigration w/ Zoe Gardner

Things like the most family-unfriendly immigration system that you could possibly imagine. British people who are married to people who were born abroad. And God forbid you fall in love with a foreigner. You have these insane income requirements and incredibly onerous bureaucratic hoops you have to jump through. That's like... families that we are keeping apart through our immigration system.