Zoe Gardner

And then it brings me back to, you know, politicians who respond to humans,

And then it brings me back to, you know, politicians who respond to humans,

drowning in the channel by saying that we need to go and talk to a neo-fascist in Italy about the camp she's setting up in Albania, when we all know, and I'm sorry, we all know that there is one way, if you actually, your one first priority was to save people's lives and stop them drowning, you would create a route for them to cross the channel without taking those boats.

drowning in the channel by saying that we need to go and talk to a neo-fascist in Italy about the camp she's setting up in Albania, when we all know, and I'm sorry, we all know that there is one way, if you actually, your one first priority was to save people's lives and stop them drowning, you would create a route for them to cross the channel without taking those boats.

That is what you would do. We all know that. So what purpose does the lie serve the lie is not to convince somebody that that's the truth right we all know that that's not the truth the lie is to somehow create an alternative world and a justification and narrative where we can pretend we're acting in in in line with morals or or practical reality and It's to create a fiction.

That is what you would do. We all know that. So what purpose does the lie serve the lie is not to convince somebody that that's the truth right we all know that that's not the truth the lie is to somehow create an alternative world and a justification and narrative where we can pretend we're acting in in in line with morals or or practical reality and It's to create a fiction.

And so the truth, when the purpose of a lie is not to convince somebody of a lie, then the truth loses its power against that. And I really do worry that even though I'm putting out stuff that is factually accurate, I'm not successfully going to challenge that narrative because the point of it isn't, you know, to convince people of a lie. It is to use a lie to justify situations that aren't going.

And so the truth, when the purpose of a lie is not to convince somebody of a lie, then the truth loses its power against that. And I really do worry that even though I'm putting out stuff that is factually accurate, I'm not successfully going to challenge that narrative because the point of it isn't, you know, to convince people of a lie. It is to use a lie to justify situations that aren't going.

No, I mean, they're fundamentally tight. They're fundamentally tight and there's always winners. And I think that... The point I'm trying to make there about what's the purpose of the lie is to justify a status quo. A status quo doesn't work for us. We're pretty sick of it. It's unpleasant. It doesn't work for the people who hate migrants because migrants continue to arrive.

No, I mean, they're fundamentally tight. They're fundamentally tight and there's always winners. And I think that... The point I'm trying to make there about what's the purpose of the lie is to justify a status quo. A status quo doesn't work for us. We're pretty sick of it. It's unpleasant. It doesn't work for the people who hate migrants because migrants continue to arrive.

And it doesn't work for migrants pretty bloody obviously. So who is it working for? Because they're still doing it. And what is the lie justifying? And that is exactly what you say. There are people making an absolute killing out of this.

And it doesn't work for migrants pretty bloody obviously. So who is it working for? Because they're still doing it. And what is the lie justifying? And that is exactly what you say. There are people making an absolute killing out of this.

Whether it's the Albanian government, the Tunisian autocratic regime, the Libyan militia, or the Rwandan dictatorship, or whether it's the private firms that sell us drones, that sell us fences, that run the detention centers and the deportation centers. There is an entire ecosystem of massive profit in this country.

Whether it's the Albanian government, the Tunisian autocratic regime, the Libyan militia, or the Rwandan dictatorship, or whether it's the private firms that sell us drones, that sell us fences, that run the detention centers and the deportation centers. There is an entire ecosystem of massive profit in this country.

horror show that we call deterrence of migrants you know the graham king he he's just the most recent sunday times rich list concept that freaks me out but whatever he's a new entry to the sunday times rich list one of the richest people in the uk what does he do he runs clear springs which is a housing accommodate they run they run the asylum hotels

horror show that we call deterrence of migrants you know the graham king he he's just the most recent sunday times rich list concept that freaks me out but whatever he's a new entry to the sunday times rich list one of the richest people in the uk what does he do he runs clear springs which is a housing accommodate they run they run the asylum hotels

There's a reason we have left people in asylum hotels is because there are people, and he's a Tory donor, they get very, very rich off this. And those are the real villains here. And they are hoarding wealth that should be distributed among all the vulnerable people in our population. And yeah, so economic inequality is absolutely at the nub of this, but it's tied in.

There's a reason we have left people in asylum hotels is because there are people, and he's a Tory donor, they get very, very rich off this. And those are the real villains here. And they are hoarding wealth that should be distributed among all the vulnerable people in our population. And yeah, so economic inequality is absolutely at the nub of this, but it's tied in.

There's a reason it continues, even though it's failing.

There's a reason it continues, even though it's failing.