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Zoe Gardner

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

James Cleverley is keeping his powder dry. He's not really doing much. I think he's trying to disassociate himself from Kemi because when it all goes pitong, which it probably will, he can jump in as the next Tory leader. And I genuinely think James Cleverley is someone who Labour would be pretty scared of.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

James Cleverley is keeping his powder dry. He's not really doing much. I think he's trying to disassociate himself from Kemi because when it all goes pitong, which it probably will, he can jump in as the next Tory leader. And I genuinely think James Cleverley is someone who Labour would be pretty scared of.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

The vast majority of people in the UK support Ukraine and they don't really like Trump and they definitely don't like Musk. Surprisingly enough, British citizens don't like it when people try and interfere in UK democracy from other countries. Yeah, it is funny, isn't it? So... Farage hitching his wagon to Trump and Musk in the way he did was always foolish because they're erratic.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

The vast majority of people in the UK support Ukraine and they don't really like Trump and they definitely don't like Musk. Surprisingly enough, British citizens don't like it when people try and interfere in UK democracy from other countries. Yeah, it is funny, isn't it? So... Farage hitching his wagon to Trump and Musk in the way he did was always foolish because they're erratic.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

They're ego driven. They're not going to be your loyal friend. And they were always going to. I mean, Musk did turn on Farage, as we saw. But, you know, Trump... Do you think that's why I'm getting loads of Rupert Lowe content? Oh, I wouldn't be surprised because Musk loves Rupert Lowe. I have heard other people say that as well.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

They're ego driven. They're not going to be your loyal friend. And they were always going to. I mean, Musk did turn on Farage, as we saw. But, you know, Trump... Do you think that's why I'm getting loads of Rupert Lowe content? Oh, I wouldn't be surprised because Musk loves Rupert Lowe. I have heard other people say that as well.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

And, you know, Musk is known to try and alter the algorithms to get his content front and centre stage.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

And, you know, Musk is known to try and alter the algorithms to get his content front and centre stage.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

I think definitely. I think one of the biggest things we should take from this is that far-right movements can and do radicalise over time. So the AFD, when it was initially created, was a Eurosceptic and economically liberal party. Over pretty much a decade, it became a sort of overtly fascist party.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

I think definitely. I think one of the biggest things we should take from this is that far-right movements can and do radicalise over time. So the AFD, when it was initially created, was a Eurosceptic and economically liberal party. Over pretty much a decade, it became a sort of overtly fascist party.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

And, you know, at the moment here in the UK, reform is obviously distancing itself from Tommy Robinson. But I think we need to remain vigilant about how quickly things could shift Richard Tice has denied ideological alignment with the AFD, but some figures in the party, so the chair Zia Yousaf, has already expressed interest in learning from them.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

And, you know, at the moment here in the UK, reform is obviously distancing itself from Tommy Robinson. But I think we need to remain vigilant about how quickly things could shift Richard Tice has denied ideological alignment with the AFD, but some figures in the party, so the chair Zia Yousaf, has already expressed interest in learning from them.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

So already we're seeing within reform there are different ideological shifts happening. And that's a pretty influential, you know, the chairman's pretty influential. Could we see reform move even further, right? And I think that's a pretty scary thought. The other obvious point for all of us to learn is that ignoring the far right doesn't stop it.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

So already we're seeing within reform there are different ideological shifts happening. And that's a pretty influential, you know, the chairman's pretty influential. Could we see reform move even further, right? And I think that's a pretty scary thought. The other obvious point for all of us to learn is that ignoring the far right doesn't stop it.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

So, you know, just trying to dismiss the AFD as extremists didn't stop it from rising, even in Germany, where the, you know, the real memory of fascism is so fresh. The only way you can counter far right parties is strong alternatives, not just criticism. So don't just ignore them. Present real policy solutions. And yes, immigration is something that they all kind of rally behind.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

So, you know, just trying to dismiss the AFD as extremists didn't stop it from rising, even in Germany, where the, you know, the real memory of fascism is so fresh. The only way you can counter far right parties is strong alternatives, not just criticism. So don't just ignore them. Present real policy solutions. And yes, immigration is something that they all kind of rally behind.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

But that's just snake oil. You know, really voters are, you know, they have concerns, real material economic concerns. And it's easy for the far right to say it's because of immigration. But proper progressive parties need to say no. we're going to have economic solutions to these issues.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

But that's just snake oil. You know, really voters are, you know, they have concerns, real material economic concerns. And it's easy for the far right to say it's because of immigration. But proper progressive parties need to say no. we're going to have economic solutions to these issues.

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Yes, I think there's a few things. The first is that there is that sense of things have gone so badly wrong in this country that even those little slices of good news, people just kind of think, OK, there might be more NHS appointments, but why can I still not get one at my GP? Or why is my mum still on an eight-month waiting list to get a hip replaced or whatever?

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Dear Donald: Can Starmer Tame Trump? w/ Liberal Democrat Leader Sir Ed Davey

Yes, I think there's a few things. The first is that there is that sense of things have gone so badly wrong in this country that even those little slices of good news, people just kind of think, OK, there might be more NHS appointments, but why can I still not get one at my GP? Or why is my mum still on an eight-month waiting list to get a hip replaced or whatever?