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Zoe Schiffer

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953 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

I think that it's, you know, I think it really depends on who you talk to.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

I think personally, I would be surprised to see Elon Musk be completely victorious in this case.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

But I think they're taking it seriously because it's not impossible.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

Like he's throwing everything he can at this.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

And while I do think OpenAI has a lot of evidence that Elon Musk knew along the way that they were restructuring, that they had to do that to raise outside capital because it is so horrifically expensive.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

to build frontier AI models, you know, it's Elon Musk.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

So I don't think you can ever completely discount his legal fights, even when they seem spurious at the outset.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

Yeah, so it's really interesting.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

There was a study from Stanford that came out months ago that said AI, from what we can tell, is in fact taking jobs from younger workers.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

And that makes sense because you still need people managing the AI agents, but like if AI agents can do the work of kind of more junior employees, then perhaps you need less of them.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

At the same time, we know that the way that AI is being rolled out at a lot of companies is not actually creating the efficiencies that people have expected, at least not yet.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

But I think having talked to a lot of people in Silicon Valley lately, both people who are affected by the layoffs, managers who are going all in on this kind of new AI forward company structure, that there is actually, and I hope I don't get like completely taken down on

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

internet for this.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

I think that at least when we're talking about software companies, a lot of them are bloated in the AI era.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

I think that if you do AI correctly, you genuinely can have a single engineer who does a lot more than that person could previously do, and therefore you might need...

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

fewer overall engineers, unless you want to like, as a company, do a whole lot more things or roll out a bunch more products or whatever, which is also an option.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

And so I think we're going to see a lot of companies doing what Meta is doing.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

We already are.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

Amazon has taken similar steps, both because it looks good to investors.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Musk v. Altman; Is the AI Job Apocalypse Overhyped?; DOJ Dismantles Voting Rights Unit

And I know that this is an unpopular opinion, but I genuinely do think like,