Zoe Schiffer
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But then I think you are going to see a lot of companies that say we can build and run Shopify with a handful of engineers, not the team of hundreds that we had previously.
That's just an example.
Such a special moment.
I was talking to someone about this yesterday, and I think that Elon Musk was trying to make the case that the clock should only have started when he realized there was a breach of the trust, basically, when he realized that OpenAI was no longer a nonprofit, and he was allowed to, like, make that case in court.
I do think a lot of people were confused on this point because they were like, a statute of limitations thing seems like
Something he could have been told before, but I think you are allowed to argue the point.
But this is why the entire trial we were like, he has to make a very compelling argument that he didn't find out that OpenAI was starting this for profit until 2023.
And that's just the evidence did not back it up.
Mark Tobaroff had one word leaving that courtroom, Elon Musk's lawyer, and he just said, appeal.
Again, there were emails where Elon Musk was very aware that they were starting a for-profit arm of the company, that they needed to do that to raise money.
He even tried to start an AI lab within Tesla that he wanted to recruit Sam Altman to join.
And then he wanted Tesla, a for-profit company famously, to join.
buy OpenAI or like acquire it.
I was editing the pre-writes and Paresh Devay, one of our great reporters, had written three versions.
And the first version I edited was like, Elon Musk wins.
And I was just like, there's no way this person has ever seen the light of day.
You know, it's interesting.
I actually think it gives them a lot of momentum and now they're going to like go full speed ahead.
I do think the image of OpenAI and Sam Altman in particular has been a bit tarnished throughout this trial.
It came on the heels of like a series of reporting about his allegedly duplicitous behavior.