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Zoe Schiffer

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721 total appearances

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Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

But then I think you are going to see a lot of companies that say we can build and run Shopify with a handful of engineers, not the team of hundreds that we had previously.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

That's just an example.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

Such a special moment.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

I was talking to someone about this yesterday, and I think that Elon Musk was trying to make the case that the clock should only have started when he realized there was a breach of the trust, basically, when he realized that OpenAI was no longer a nonprofit, and he was allowed to, like, make that case in court.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

I do think a lot of people were confused on this point because they were like, a statute of limitations thing seems like

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

Something he could have been told before, but I think you are allowed to argue the point.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

But this is why the entire trial we were like, he has to make a very compelling argument that he didn't find out that OpenAI was starting this for profit until 2023.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

And that's just the evidence did not back it up.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

Mark Tobaroff had one word leaving that courtroom, Elon Musk's lawyer, and he just said, appeal.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

Again, there were emails where Elon Musk was very aware that they were starting a for-profit arm of the company, that they needed to do that to raise money.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

He even tried to start an AI lab within Tesla that he wanted to recruit Sam Altman to join.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

And then he wanted Tesla, a for-profit company famously, to join.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

buy OpenAI or like acquire it.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

I was editing the pre-writes and Paresh Devay, one of our great reporters, had written three versions.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

And the first version I edited was like, Elon Musk wins.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

And I was just like, there's no way this person has ever seen the light of day.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

You know, it's interesting.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

I actually think it gives them a lot of momentum and now they're going to like go full speed ahead.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

I do think the image of OpenAI and Sam Altman in particular has been a bit tarnished throughout this trial.

Uncanny Valley | WIRED
Why Is Meta In Crisis?; Google Search’s Makeover; AI Gets Booed by Graduates

It came on the heels of like a series of reporting about his allegedly duplicitous behavior.