Chapter 1: How does Harry Garside define his identity in the public eye?
Hi guys, welcome back to Two Worlds Collide podcast. On today's episode we have Olympian boxer Harry Garsite. I hope you guys enjoy. And that's how we start Two Worlds Collide podcast in my back room in my house. Harry Garsite, mate, welcome to Two Worlds Collide podcast. How you going?
I'm well, mate. Thanks for having me. Thanks for picking me up from the airport as well. It was nice.
Well, you're welcome. It's always five-star Banford service here. Everyone always says thanks for picking me up to the airport, but I find it so much more. It's just easier, right, if I pick you up because then we get to know each other on the car ride here.
Yes.
And then it just doesn't feel like it's like, you know, you come to a podcast studio, you meet the person you're doing the podcast with a little bit weird. So we get to gauge each other out on the half an hour ride through the city and I get to be like, oh, this is where I grew up, blah, blah, blah. Yes. Mate, welcome. It was nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Filming from Sydney? Filming from Sydney, mate. I've been, yeah, loving some of your stuff. I said to you on the car, I'm sure there's many things that we probably won't see eye to eye on, but... I obviously respect a lot of what you've been doing over the last few years. And I know my mom, when I said I was going on here, my mom was like, oh, I fucking love that guy. Oh, nice.
So shout out to my mom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good stuff. And, man, I've had plenty of people on that that I don't agree with, but that's what life's about, right? Imagine if you just went around all the time just agreeing with everyone. Yeah.
agreeing what they believe and this is what people don't understand about political parties as well like you can follow a political party and agree with 80 of what they're doing but then if you if there's 20 that you don't agree with and you want to criticize it and criticize it yeah that's all the time i think we've um as a society we live in these little ecosystems online just push up um yeah we live in these little ecosystems online and i just feel i fear that we we've lost the art of like having
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Chapter 2: What challenges does Harry face regarding immigration and culture in Australia?
Like, it's crazy that it hasn't been once studied more than what it has. Do you know why? I'd imagine. Why the big pharma, you know?
Yeah, yeah. They don't want...
us to be healthy yeah well like the big pharma can't uh they can't patent it because it's more of a natural remedy okay um so they can't patent it means they can't produce it means they won't give any funding for it yeah if i won't give any funding for it there's no studies for it to show that it works well on humans yeah and also the big pharma companies and this is where my where my side of hating the government comes out
big pharma companies lobby to our politicians. They back their campaigns, they back their political parties. So politicians can't push for this sort of stuff either.
Sorry to ruin your day. No, it makes so much sense. There's certain organizations that control the world arguably more than the governments. While governments, I think, are extremely important, it's like these big corporations, big tech, big pharma, there's so many of them that are paying. That's so obvious. But I don't know how you fix that.
Yeah, you need to destroy the system from inside out.
Yeah, but it's like humans... I had this weird thought. David Attenborough is a highly respected man. I had this crazy thought. I was watching Our Planet or something like that, and it's amazing what he's done for the planet. He highlights the beauty of animals and how we have to work... We're an ecosystem. We have to work with them, not against them.
And I do think he's way more good than he is bad, but I had this weird thought when I was watching him. I was like... He is just like any other human. And he moved from BBC where he had a pretty good wicket and he moved to Netflix where he's getting paid more money. He's chasing money. And you know why? Because he's coming towards the back end of his life.
And I'd imagine he's having this fear of like, what am I leaving my family? He's worth 20, 30, 40 million, if not more. I'm not denying he does a lot for animals, but he's deeply flawed just like every other human. And I just think that we put him up on this pedestal. I'm like- Arguably, you are part of the problem.
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Chapter 3: How does Harry Garside navigate social pressure and public criticism?
Immigration, people debate about so many different things, but that's exactly what the people in power want. They want us to all just be talking about these things that like, while they are important issues to be talking about, it's like they're the ones up there just moseying on through, getting through things through parliament, making more money, like...
Printing more debt, rising inflation, selling our debt off to foreign interests. It's insane. And taking that debt and then ensuring that Australian taxpaying dollars are going off to paying that debt each year, which is less money for food, schools and emergency services. Like, yeah, I definitely think that. I definitely think over the last couple of decades, because like...
I just think, how did we go from the early 2010s, and I don't know how you feel on these type of identity politics situations, but how did we go from... like a very, very, very small percentage of the population thinking that a man can be a woman. And now it's like fully accepted in society.
And surely I'm thinking to myself, maybe someone just planted that idea 15 years ago to get us really angry at each other
So when they do have other issues like mass debt, mass immigration, the epidemic of young men killing themselves, we don't really speak about those issues because we're all too busy arguing about whether this male that claims to be a female with a dress on should compete in a women-only sport or women-only spaces.
Yeah, I have definitely thought about that too. I float between so many beliefs around this and it does evolve and change a lot. I find it because I think humans have the capacity because the human mind is fucking
insane like the fact that nikola tesla could create these beautiful ideas or einstein or um he had wireless internet connection before anyone else had it or like wireless or something where does that come from you know or like uh beethoven who could just sort of i think he could you know make music before even understanding what music it was insane so i i do think the human mind is is incredible and i do think it is humanly possible for someone to be born in the wrong body
I think the numbers are way smaller than what we see now. And I think that comes down to like us living in a society where it's like we're at the top of Maslow's hierarchy of needs and people are fighting for identity. And I think my empathetic side, I have empathy for the people there because I actually do think a lot of it comes from like...
wanting to feel seen you know and i think if you grow up in an environment where parents are distracted because both parents have to work in most households um most people most people are in split you know i think it's 50 50 in split households so you you're having young people who are growing up in feeling unseen or feeling unvalued or feeling unloved potentially, whatever the outcome is.
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Chapter 4: What mindset strategies does Harry use for personal growth and resilience?
be of your thought pattern sort of thing but now i'm like well no i just don't think it's fair to society for the younger girls yeah and or females um within spaces yeah i mean how that works out in a situation where they debate it in parliament house like who knows who knows who who knows what they do who knows what rules they bring in what female other spaces they bring in
you know, I don't know the answers to it, but that's just my opinion on it now these days.
I got, I got really caught up in it in 2022 around like, you know, I kind of got pigeonholed into this person of, you know, like, like I had this, like I was, it was almost like I was a perfect storm. Like I'm a boxer who has tattoos and, and, you know, it looks a bit rough, you know, but then does a sport that's rough as well. And then I was like,
You know, I had this compassionate side and I would paint my nails and I wouldn't give a fuck about what I wear.
Yeah, my mum told me that you paint your nails.
Yeah, I haven't done it for years because I started having to play a character and I fucking hated that, you know. And the reason as to why I pulled back, I've never said this, but the reason as to why I pulled back is because I just, I think it kind of confused people more, you know. And I just, I...
i think that the the message was so simple it just got so misconstrued and there's so many people who probably watch this that follow you would be like fuck that guy which is fair enough they're afraid to have their beliefs but my message is i want young people to be curious explore themselves and just be who they are rather than being who they feel like they have to be from their parents their community they're just being who they are you know and that's
But I just don't know if them exploring a different gender, because it is possible. I do think that. I said that at the start. But I think the numbers are very, very small. So I think if you push them down that road, they are not actually living authentically. And then they have worse mental health problems.
And I care about fucking young people so much because I think they need us more than ever right now. They need genuine adults to stand in line and go, geez, the world is changing quicker than it's ever probably done in human history because of technology. It's like, we need to be the ones who are standing still
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Chapter 5: How does Harry view the future of identity in Australia?
All this lobbying that gets in and has access to our parliament members... And they preach on behalf of what the lobbyists want, not what the Australian people want. It's like, and then when you think to yourself, okay, so that happens. And then we have a system where you're taxing the people into oblivion. You're giving tax breaks to big business, foreign interests and billionaires.
But we have to pay, for example, like if I earn over $180,000, you're taxing me at 40 cents a dollar. And then I'm like, we don't live in a democracy, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, hey, I mean... I'm sure there's... Is there any countries in the world that have made that illegal? I'm sure... Lobbying. Maybe some Scandinavian countries, maybe?
I don't know. Maybe.
I reckon that would be the only ones.
Yeah. But those ones are like... The only ones that are made lobbying illegal are probably the dictatorships around there. They don't need it because they've just taken all the gold. It's insane, isn't it? Yeah, that's it. Sorry to ruin your day, but then you dive into the printing money and the Fed, which is our Federal Reserve.
They're the ones that raise interest rates and issue government bonds, which is literally just money printed. Then the government sells that as debt to China. and then we get the money in return to spend on our economy. And over time, we've went a trillion dollars in debt, and now we're spending something like $40 billion a year, which is almost a billion dollars a month in interest repayments.
And guess who collects them interest repayments? Like China, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, people that buy our debt. And then our taxes go to that debt. And it's like, do we really live in a democracy? Yeah. Or are we just a slow managed decline?
I always try and think what it would be like 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 years ago. And I just wonder if this is just... Like the micro of us in a tribe was kind of this. You know, there's like little cliques. You do something for old mate, he does something for you, whatever.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of global tensions on individual values?
um so then in that i have this existential crisis all the time going like this fucking old man there's nothing like what am i fighting for what am i even living for like whereas like those people don't have that thought at all they know they're they're living for something they're living they'll die for that thing some of them will die for that thing yeah oh no no pretty much all of them yeah they will die for that thing yeah these uh you know especially that's what's so like powerful about islam
like these people are willing to die for a god that um has only been taught to them for a god that they can't see now you know man there's a lot of christians like that as well i was on a uh i had a podcast with a guy named charlie bacchus great man lives in western sydney and uh dude he's willing to die for it in in the name of his god in the name of jesus christ
A lot of people, a lot of people I know, they are. But with Islam, like, for example, you don't really meet a Muslim that isn't Islamic and doesn't align themselves to the Quran. Like, do you meet a Westerner that isn't aligned with the Bible? Yeah. You meet heaps of them, right? Yeah. But you don't meet too many Muslims that aren't aligned with Islam. And it's like, that's their power. Yes.
That's how they're so powerful.
Yeah.
because they are all on the one page yes and they are all willing to die for that yeah i just don't know like not that you need to compete with that because i think everyone has everyone can make up whatever they want around what is real and what's not real and what's if we have a god or not but i just don't i don't know if you ever
can fundamentally beat that not that you should try and beat it but i don't know because this is like no you can't but they just need to stay in the middle east and we need to stay in western countries that's that's how we beat it there is also i i will say though i through the boxing world there is so many muslims christians some of the greatest indigenous and and and they're all extremely functional not functional like they're not functional but um
yeah they're like they're good people you know and they're family people and I always think that like like I don't know if it's because we look different or we have this level of disconnection but and we don't understand I think that the understanding we don't understand a lot of their culture and understand certain things you know it's just very different and I think chalk and cheese mate where they grew up to where we grew up like look at Khabib yeah in the UFC like fighting Conor McGregor yeah that was two different worlds collided two different worlds yeah yeah to name your podcast bruh
Yeah, that's right. But I just, they're humans, you know, they're humans. And I always think that like, regardless of where anyone's from, and that's one of the things that I think we probably may disagree on.
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Chapter 7: How does Harry's boxing career influence his approach to life challenges?
So the gas lobby is like, Oh, I just, you know, you're just sitting in the room. This is too much. It's too much. Yeah. This is too much. You just, you just feel like every bit of information you're getting is manipulated here or there, or,
especially by paul says you can't trust the thing they say and then everyone comes out and you're like you should be talking about this you should be talking about that or the right side of politics like no they pay their they pay their fair share and they have left side it's like no they don't you're just like looking on either side it's like this like ping pong ball just going
But it's like, yeah, so look, I mean, that's probably going to upset a lot of people what I just said. But my thing is, is like if the data shows that it needs to be taxed, tax it.
If there's other data showing that they are paying their fair share and they are putting mass amounts of money back in the community and it is harder to extract, that's why we don't tax it like they are over in Norway and Qatar and places like that. But like, I mean, I'm just some podcaster, bro.
Yeah, I always think that too.
It's like that... There is... Sorry, let me jump in. There is definitely one thing though that I know for sure. And the likes of Gerard Rennick have spoken about this. We let hundreds of millions of dollars go offshore in big business a year. Have you ever done paid ads on Meta?
uh never okay so like i used to do it in my early podcast days to get my content out there you do a paid ad and that paid ad the invoice would come from ireland right and then apple does this as well yeah so they pay no tax or fuck all tax yeah and it's just through a change in a spreadsheet number
in australia and they can get all their profits and it's hundreds of millions of dollars billions of dollars probably if we did this with every single person funneling profits offshore it would be more than the tax yeah um on the gas what they're trying to push here with the 17 billion or something per year before it's just like
So, you know, we're talking about the gap, but there's a whole industry of all these people sending all the money offshore and via a spreadsheet, they just get all their stuff and send it to Ireland and they save 20% tax.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of having open conversations about controversial topics?
to be australian you know i've been to many other countries i've lived in other places and we're just fucking lucky yeah but yeah people got to realize as well like it's incredible everyone says we used to be the lucky country look we can still have our lucky country hell yeah don't worry like whatever happened over the past two decades yeah it can be reversed Yes. Like, just trust me, guys.
Stay with me on this. It's hard for me as well to get up every single morning and feel like I'm deflated and defeated. But trust me, we can reverse the shitstorm that's happened here. We've just got to be a hardline government that is willing just to be savage and put the people first. Put the people first, yeah. We can do that. We can do that, and we are working to do that.
So anyone out there that thinks, oh, man, I'm lost. I can't do this anymore. We can unfuck what we have fucked.
Would you ever go into politics?
Nah. Nah, nah. I don't want to, no. No, no.
I think I've done too much shit posting on X. I'm sure that'll probably be normal in 10 years' time. Who knows?
Yeah, that's it. I mean, I called James Patterson a beta male, little female, so whatever. What did I call him this morning? All right, I've read this post out. It's brilliant. Where is he? Um... Yeah, because this is where James Patterson... Because I got a different view from the James Patterson stoush. I don't know. I'm not going to lie.
I don't really fucking... Yeah, so James Patterson, he got in a stoush with this One Nation voter. And we only seen it from his camera. Oh, that was a video you were showing. So I showed you on camera. So we got it from another angle.
It looks like he was the one who was sort of aggressive.
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