Chapter 1: What new DNA evidence changes the investigation?
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Listen anywhere you get podcasts. In the days after his wife's murder, Sandy Prier spoke to detectives several times.
Can I have some more water? Yes, please.
Leslie's body was found on May 1st, 2001. On May 4th, he met with detectives and he told them intimate details about his marriage. He described arguments and told them how much Leslie's drinking bothered him. On May 8th, Sandy asked to see detectives again. You said you wanted to talk to us about, you left a message on my voicemail earlier today about Brett Reedy.
Sandy said he remembered detectives telling him, if you think of anything, let us know. Well now, he was back. And he was thinking about Leslie's boss, Brett Reedy.
Leslie said that she thinks Brett's a control freak, especially with her.
According to Sandy, Leslie had told him about arguments she said she'd had with Brett. He said she described one in particular, where she said things had gotten heated.
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Chapter 2: What details emerge from Sandy Prier's interviews with detectives?
Have you erased that or any of the stuff that was on there the past few weeks? Is it still there? You guys, I don't mean to show any disrespect, but I've been cooperating with you since day one. And I think I've answered enough questions. Just about the answering machine? I don't understand. My attorney said not to answer any more questions.
You can hear in the tape, this isn't what detectives expected. Sandy, their number one suspect, who has been eager to cooperate for weeks, suddenly mentions a lawyer and declines to say anything. The change in Sandy brought a change in the detectives too. They finally spelled out what had gone unsaid in all their other conversations. We think you killed your wife. They asked Sandy to come clean.
It's a terrible thing. It is a terrible thing.
And you have to be able to face it. Laura needs to know.
It's going to hurt her, but she needs to know. She has to put closure on it, man. I want closure on it. You're the only one that can give it. I repeat, no disrespect. There's no disrespect. I'm not answering any questions. Just be a man and tell us what happened. I told you exactly what happened. But you haven't told us the truth. I have told you exactly what happened.
Here, the investigators ramp up the pressure as if they know this might be their last chance to try to get Sandy Prier to confess.
You're the only one that has the key to all this. And why won't you help yourself, Sandy? Why won't you just talk to us? Just tell us what happened.
Sandy eventually says he'll answer questions if his lawyer can be present. Okay, the detective said, seizing the opportunity. Call him and ask.
Carmen, I'm still here. And did you say you want the lawyer to come down? Yes. They want to know if Howard can come down. Am I being detained? No. No, I'm not. No.
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Chapter 3: How does the investigation shift focus after the DNA results?
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So here we are. Here we are. A year after Leslie's murder, Lauren Prayer met with the two detectives in charge of the case. She'd come to find out what was new in the investigation, but they only wanted to rehash an old theory. The detectives were still convinced Sandy was the killer.
And it's frustrating for us because I just, my gut feeling is that your dad had something to do with this.
Mm-hmm.
I've just been a cop too many years. I've worked too many cases. It is so bizarre to think that this could be someone else.
The unknown male DNA hadn't shifted the suspicion from Sandy at all. It had just added another layer of complexity. Detectives had a whole timeline of how they imagined Sandy had carried out Leslie's murder. Their theory was that on Tuesday, May 1st, 2001, after eating pasta for dinner, Leslie Prier had an unknown male guest over.
When Sandy got home, there was a confrontation during which the unknown male had been injured and left through the back door. This would explain the unknown man's blood being found in those three locations and his DNA on Leslie's fingernails.
According to their official report, the detectives believed that Sandy had then turned his anger on Leslie, killing her in the foyer area and spending the early hours of Wednesday morning cleaning up before leaving for work as usual. The report also speculated that the biggest wrinkle in Sandy's plan was Brett Reedy.
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