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Chapter 1: What led to Eugene Gligor's arrest in the summer of 2024?
This is Debra Roberts, here with another weekly episode of our latest true crime series from ABC and ABC Audio, Blood and Water. Remember, you can get new episodes early by following Blood and Water on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you're listening right now. Here's the next episode of Blood and Water.
One morning in the summer of 2024, Eugene Gligor was sitting on his stoop in northwest Washington, D.C. Gligor was 45, with wavy brown hair and a neatly trimmed beard. He wore glasses and a polo shirt with the logo of the company he worked for stitched above the heart. Gligor lived on a charming street lined with pre-war buildings and a red brick sidewalk.
Chapter 2: What was Eugene Gligor's initial reaction during the arrest?
Just down the block was the main drag, a trendy stretch dotted with brunch spots and a Trader Joe's. It was in this picturesque setting that Gligor was abruptly arrested.
Hands up, man.
Hands up! Gligor was surrounded by five plainclothes officers who handcuffed him and led him to a car.
Can you tell me what this is about?
Five officers arresting one man would have been an unusual sight on this street. Not only was Gligor embarrassed, he also said he was in pain from the handcuffs. In the body camera footage, the officers don't tell Gligor what he's being arrested for, but he'd find out later that day.
Gligor was about to come face to face with the cold case detectives who spent years trying to find Leslie Preer's killer. Now that Gligor was in custody, the detectives would confront him with what their investigation had uncovered. And as you'll hear, Eugene Gligor didn't take it well. From ABC Audio in 2020, I'm Stephanie Ramos. This is Blood and Water.
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Chapter 3: How did the detectives confront Gligor with the evidence?
Episode 6, Face to Face.
You have a seat right there.
After Eugene Gligor was arrested, he was taken into an interrogation room. So anyway, I can get some water. I'll get you some water. Go ahead and have a seat. Thank you. You're welcome. Soon after, detectives Tara Augustin and Allison Dupoy walked in and took a seat. Hi, Eugene. Hello. Hello. This interview would end up being the only time detectives sat down with Gligor. The stakes were high.
I'm sure you're wondering what this is all about. I would really like to know. This has been really, really hard, whatever's happening.
Sure.
The detectives began by reading Glee Gore his rights and asking some standard questions. What is your physical condition today? Any injuries? Are you feeling OK?
I mean, I'm feeling a little bit caught off guard and I'm from the handcuffs. There's seems to be a lump on my hand.
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Chapter 4: What relationship did Eugene Gligor have with Leslie Preer?
I don't know if it is. Is it swelling? Is it?
A blood clot, I don't know. I've been holding my hand above my heart just so hopefully it helps to heal. The detectives began telling Gligor about the case they'd been working on. We are from Montgomery County. We actually work in the cold case unit. Do you recall back in 2001, Leslie Preer?
Yes, that she was murdered, yeah. Okay. Okay.
So that's the case that we are investigating. What was your relationship with Lauren, the daughter?
We had dated. Okay, and when did you guys date?
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Chapter 5: What details did the detectives reveal about Leslie Preer's murder?
Do you remember years? Exact dates, I'm not entirely sure. There were lots of details Gligor said he didn't remember. When he did answer questions, he didn't reveal all that much.
When you guys were dating, how close were you with the family? Like, did you spend a lot of time at their house or did you know them real well?
I knew the family. I, you know, definitely spent time. She spent time at my house. I've spent time at her house. Yeah, you know, for sure. So how, were you close with her parents? I mean, I wouldn't say close with them. I don't know if close would be the right word, but yeah. They were friendly with me and nice to me, so... Were you at her house a lot of the time?
Or did you guys spend more time at your house?
Chapter 6: How did Eugene Gligor respond to the accusations against him?
Or what did you guys do when you... I mean, it was a mix. My house, her house, being out. I mean, we're young and teenagers, so there was, you know, going out and... Okay.
Okay.
Watching the footage, Gligor seems to be holding back, but he's not the only one. When detectives began telling Gligor about the case, they left out key details. They did not immediately say, we have your DNA, and it matched the crime scene DNA. Instead, what they told him was a little more cryptic.
From the crime scene, we have DNA from the person who was there when Leslie died. So there's Leslie's blood all over the place, obviously. But then there's also another DNA profile that was picked up from the crime scene. And we wanted to find out more about you and if there was any kind of situation where you could have been at the house at that time.
What's fascinating about this interview is that it feels like Gligor and the detectives are doing a sort of dance. Like both sides are trying to figure out what the other knows without revealing too much about what they themselves know. And it's not just the detectives who are asking questions. I'm just, I'm a little confused to find out more and talk to me.
Why not just call me and ask me to come in and talk to me versus... have marshals come and arrest me and bring me in. I'm just confused as to why that's the case.
Well, because we needed to talk to you in a controlled environment and because there's a little bit more to it than what we've told you so far.
Could you tell me? Well, we're getting there. I'm trying to give you an opportunity to be a little bit forthcoming before we... I mean, I feel very... I feel a little bit trapped here, like... Well, you're under arrest, so you should feel trapped. Right. And so I think, you know, I mean, probably asking for a lawyer is my best course of action at this point.
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Chapter 7: What was Lauren Prier's reaction to learning about Eugene's involvement?
With that, the detectives tell Gligor, okay, no more questions.
That's totally fine. And we don't have to ask you any more questions, but We are going to just tell you some stuff, okay?
And then the detectives lay their cards out on the table. We actually have a sample of your DNA, and it was compared to the crime scene DNA, and it matched. So we know that you were there at the time when Leslie died.
But I never gave a sample of DNA.
That's correct.
We obtained a sample from a discarded water bottle that you drank out of, and we... collected it after you discarded it into the trash and it was swabbed and it was compared.
So your DNA matches the crime scene DNA. I don't know what to say. I have no recollection. I have no memory. I have no... I don't know what to say.
Okay. Well, that's why we wanted to talk to you to find out if there's any other explanation.
You know, we wanted to try to see if there was another angle or another side to this story. I mean, why would my DNA be there? That's what we're trying to figure out. So, I don't know. I don't know, you know. I mean, I was in the house, but it was years before, you know, when I dated her.
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Chapter 8: What were the consequences of Eugene Gligor's plea deal?
I don't recall.
I don't have any memory. I didn't do anything that you're talking about. So I don't know. And I don't feel like I can... I don't know how to answer it. I don't want to incriminate myself with questions. You guys are professionals. I'm not. I don't know. I really do think I need an attorney.
I need to use the phone and I need to call someone and I need legal representation before I respond to anything else.
Okay. That's fine. We're not going to ask you any more questions.
There's no tears coming out of your face.
I'm very dry right now.
You're dry? I'm very dry. I'm partially dehydrated. You can probably see my eyes are bloodshot red because I'm just tired and drained. I don't know what's going on. You want me to drink water so I can tear? Like, what the is wrong with you? I don't want you to tear. I just don't want you to... What are you trying to say? I'm just trying to say that this seems a little put on. Are you kidding me?
Are you... kidding me no oh my god you're so full of it you're just you're after this is this is the police this is yes like it makes sense you know it's in your eyes it's guilty until proven innocent i get it well honey your dna was in the crime scene that's why like
There's a reason. There's due process, right? Due process. So you're saying I'm guilty before I've even been put into a court of law?
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