Blood and Water: Face to Face

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What led to Eugene Gligor's arrest in the summer of 2024?

Debra Roberts 0:00
This is Debra Roberts, here with another weekly episode of our latest true crime series from ABC and ABC Audio, Blood and Water. Remember, you can get new episodes early by following Blood and Water on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you're listening right now. Here's the next episode of Blood and Water.
Stephanie Ramos 0:23
One morning in the summer of 2024, Eugene Gligor was sitting on his stoop in northwest Washington, D.C. Gligor was 45, with wavy brown hair and a neatly trimmed beard. He wore glasses and a polo shirt with the logo of the company he worked for stitched above the heart. Gligor lived on a charming street lined with pre-war buildings and a red brick sidewalk.

What was Eugene Gligor's initial reaction during the arrest?

Stephanie Ramos 0:52
Just down the block was the main drag, a trendy stretch dotted with brunch spots and a Trader Joe's. It was in this picturesque setting that Gligor was abruptly arrested.
Unknown 1:06
Hands up, man.
Stephanie Ramos 1:12
Hands up! Gligor was surrounded by five plainclothes officers who handcuffed him and led him to a car.
Unknown 1:19
Can you tell me what this is about?
Stephanie Ramos 1:21
Five officers arresting one man would have been an unusual sight on this street. Not only was Gligor embarrassed, he also said he was in pain from the handcuffs. In the body camera footage, the officers don't tell Gligor what he's being arrested for, but he'd find out later that day. Gligor was about to come face to face with the cold case detectives who spent years trying to find Leslie Preer's killer. Now that Gligor was in custody, the detectives would confront him with what their investigation had uncovered. And as you'll hear, Eugene Gligor didn't take it well. From ABC Audio in 2020, I'm Stephanie Ramos. This is Blood and Water.

How did the detectives confront Gligor with the evidence?

Stephanie Ramos 2:40
Episode 6, Face to Face.
Unknown 2:43
You have a seat right there.
Stephanie Ramos 2:57
After Eugene Gligor was arrested, he was taken into an interrogation room. So anyway, I can get some water. I'll get you some water. Go ahead and have a seat. Thank you. You're welcome. Soon after, detectives Tara Augustin and Allison Dupoy walked in and took a seat. Hi, Eugene. Hello. Hello. This interview would end up being the only time detectives sat down with Gligor. The stakes were high.
Unknown 3:27
I'm sure you're wondering what this is all about. I would really like to know. This has been really, really hard, whatever's happening.
Sure.
Stephanie Ramos 3:36
The detectives began by reading Glee Gore his rights and asking some standard questions. What is your physical condition today? Any injuries? Are you feeling OK?
Unknown 3:45
I mean, I'm feeling a little bit caught off guard and I'm from the handcuffs. There's seems to be a lump on my hand.

What relationship did Eugene Gligor have with Leslie Preer?

Unknown 3:52
I don't know if it is. Is it swelling? Is it?
Stephanie Ramos 3:57
A blood clot, I don't know. I've been holding my hand above my heart just so hopefully it helps to heal. The detectives began telling Gligor about the case they'd been working on. We are from Montgomery County. We actually work in the cold case unit. Do you recall back in 2001, Leslie Preer?
Unknown 4:19
Yes, that she was murdered, yeah. Okay. Okay.
Detective Tara Augustin 4:23
So that's the case that we are investigating. What was your relationship with Lauren, the daughter?
Stephanie Ramos 4:31
We had dated. Okay, and when did you guys date?

What details did the detectives reveal about Leslie Preer's murder?

Stephanie Ramos 4:35
Do you remember years? Exact dates, I'm not entirely sure. There were lots of details Gligor said he didn't remember. When he did answer questions, he didn't reveal all that much.
Detective Tara Augustin 4:52
When you guys were dating, how close were you with the family? Like, did you spend a lot of time at their house or did you know them real well?
Stephanie Ramos 5:00
I knew the family. I, you know, definitely spent time. She spent time at my house. I've spent time at her house. Yeah, you know, for sure. So how, were you close with her parents? I mean, I wouldn't say close with them. I don't know if close would be the right word, but yeah. They were friendly with me and nice to me, so... Were you at her house a lot of the time? Or did you guys spend more time at your house?

How did Eugene Gligor respond to the accusations against him?

Stephanie Ramos 5:30
Or what did you guys do when you... I mean, it was a mix. My house, her house, being out. I mean, we're young and teenagers, so there was, you know, going out and... Okay.
Detective Allison Dupuy 5:43
Okay.
Stephanie Ramos 5:45
Watching the footage, Gligor seems to be holding back, but he's not the only one. When detectives began telling Gligor about the case, they left out key details.

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