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The After Show: Blood on the Door

19 May 2025

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Deborah Roberts talks with producer Blue Browning about what drew him to a story about a mother’s quest for justice for her murdered daughter, and how he was able to find footage of a young woman whose life was cut short before smart phones made video ubiquitous. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0.635 - 20.559 Brad Milkey

Hey, it's Brad Milkey. This week on the Crime Scene Weekly, we're talking about a mom who gained national attention for faking her own kidnapping. Sherry Papini is back in the spotlight, but now she's changing her story and trying to change her custody arrangement with her kids. Listen to the latest from the case on the Crime Scene Weekly.

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26.718 - 49.593 Deborah Roberts

Hi there, everybody. It's Deborah Roberts, and welcome to 2020 The After Show. Today, we're going to talk a little bit more about the mom who became a warrior to find her daughter's killer. I reported on this story on Friday night's edition of 2020. Joan Berry, whose daughter, Jonna, was stabbed to death when she was a 21-year-old student at UT, the University of Tennessee.

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50.513 - 73.882 Deborah Roberts

There was no suspect and no arrest for years. And Joan just became consumed by this whole thought of who could do something like this so vicious to her daughter and what laws needed to change to make it a little easier to solve these kinds of crimes. So today we're going to dig into it. And joining me is my colleague, my friend, Blue Browning. Hey, Blue. Hello.

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74.102 - 75.643 Blue Browning

Hey, it's so great to be with you, Deborah.

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75.743 - 91.11 Deborah Roberts

Oh, good to be with you. And you really are a partner in crime when we come to these stories because you and I have worked on a lot together. This story was actually somewhere you lived. Yeah, yeah, exactly. University of Tennessee. I didn't go to school there, but I worked in Knoxville and I was so familiar with that area.

91.13 - 94.551 Deborah Roberts

But how did you wind up thinking about this story and thinking it would work for 2020?

94.651 - 113.487 Blue Browning

Well, it definitely was Joan and how passionate she was. I saw an interview that she did and I saw the anguish in her voice. But also, I was so inspired listening to her. This mother had no answers for nearly three years. She basically went on a crusade, and it led her to wanting to change the laws in Tennessee.

114.228 - 123.659 Blue Browning

And she was successful, but she still did not have an answer as to what happened to her daughter, who killed her daughter. But finally, as we saw in the show...

124.379 - 144.859 Deborah Roberts

there was an answer there was an answer but it took a very long time and blue you know this is almost like the two of us when we drive along when you and i are off covering these stories and we're in the car and you and i get to talk about not only the background but what your thoughts were my thought so we're kind of like in the car all over again the two of us and i remember you got us on the one of the apps and got us turned right back around we we

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