Behind the Scenes With the Keators
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We hope you enjoy Elliot and the Caters on 32 Thoughts, the podcast. Sounds like a band name. Elliot and the Caters. They do bluegrass music. Elliot plays the banjo. Elliot's on the banjo. One night only at the Orion's Folk Festival. Welcome to 32 Thoughts, the podcast presented by your Canadian Toyota dealers and the 2026 Tacoma. It's time to Toyota. Boy, that offseason sure flew by, didn't it? What are we, barely a week plus after dropping the big four plus hour finale? We're back already. Trust us, we are more than sick of each other. And we promise we would not interrupt your own summer activities without good reason. This is a special emergency interview pod. I'm sure you've heard by now, the Ducks did in fact match the Flyers' five-year, $90 million offer sheet to ensure that Leo Carlson remained a Duck.
So Pat Verbeek said it was surprising to say the least when he first heard those numbers that the Flyers threw out. at Carlson. So today you're going to hear Elliot's conversation with two people very involved in that whole process. Carlson's representation, the father-son duo of Matt and Ryan Cater. Matt's been around the game, especially a long, long time. How surprised were they when they heard what Philly was willing to offer? You'll get that answer and plenty more about the inner workings of a contract that has effectively changed everything. on the business side. We hope you enjoy Elliot and the Caters on 32 Thoughts, the podcast.
All right. So gentlemen, since this is audio only, and I don't want to be constantly introducing both of you because it's bad for flow. I don't think the listeners would like that very much. I felt the best way to start would be for the listeners to get used to your respective voices. So Matt, why don't you introduce yourself first so the listeners know exactly what you sound like?
So I'm Matt Cater. I'm going into my 37th year in NHL circles. I worked for eight years, first eight years of my career as a scout with the St. Louis Blues, traveling all over the world. Sweden in particular, which we'll discuss some on this podcast. And the last 29, going into my 29th year in the agent business. So been doing this a long time.
Yeah. And I'm Ryan Cater. I'm Matt's son. I'm 27 years old. I'm on year two. So not the same rap sheet as Matt, but I went to Boston College for four years, worked there under Jerry York, and he hired me. So fair enough.
And he just did his master's in sports management at Boston College. So he is a double eagle. We'll give him some credit there.
So Ryan, did you always want to work for your dad? Was this something that you thought you were going to do?
Yeah, I always wanted to, like kind of growing up, right? I was always kind of doing player comps for him, doing team research, doing no trade lists, things like that since I was in high school. And I've always loved the game and everything else. And I did video at Boston College, me and my buddy Cam Wolbach, who now works for the Bruins organization. And then after that, I actually worked in tech sales, but I was still doing work for Matt after that. And then two years ago, he, he brought, it was a rigorous interview process.
Let's bring it.
Okay. So now let's introduce Leo Carlson. When did he become your client? Any player who's the second overall pick in the draft and has his talent. There's probably a lot of people who want to represent him. So how did the caters become Leo Carlson's representatives?
So years back, probably eight, nine years ago, I got a call from Zdeno Chara, who one of his best friends in the world is a guy by the name of Radek Hammer, who played for the Ottawa Senators years ago. And Radek's a Czech, but he's based in Sweden, in Karlstad, Sweden. And Z said, hey, he's one of my best friends. He's a great person. He's in the agent business. He wants to talk to you about affiliating. I was skeptical at best, but the minute I started talking erratic, I loved him. You know, he had the same values and beliefs as we did. I met his partner, Marcus Isaacson, who's been an agent over there for 20 plus years and has done a tremendous job over there negotiating contracts.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–7:44
2
Who are Matt and Ryan Keator and how did they become Leo Carlsson’s agents?
7:44–17:56
3
How did the Keators build their Sweden partnership and win hockey connection?
17:56–30:38
4
What does ‘developing a player as a businessman’ mean for Leo Carlsson?
30:38–36:48