“Get the b*tch”: The political dirt units targeting journalists
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I'm Daniel James, and you're listening to 7am.
What warning did Amy Remeikis receive about political operatives digging for dirt?
A call came through with a warning. Political operatives were digging for dirt. For Amy Remekis, it wasn't the first time, but this time she was told was more vicious than usual. In Canberra, that kind of warning is part of the machinery. A whisper campaign, a rumour, a foul passed around, backgrounding against opponents or perceived threats to vested interests. Enough to make a journalist think twice about who they speak to, where they go and what stories they pursue. Too often, for women in public life, the tactics are familiar and designed to cut deep. Today, a contributing editor at the New Daily, Amy Ramikis, on the forces trying to intimidate journalists and why she decided to call it out.
It's Friday, July 10th. Amy, so you get a phone call from a political contact of yours warning you that a so-called political operative or operatives are, quote, looking for dirt. What were you told?
Yeah, so this has happened several times in my career, and I'm certainly not the only journalist that this happens to. It happens quite frequently. I think people would be surprised how often it happens. The most recent time was, you know, literally just somebody a couple of weeks ago saying, hey, just thought I'd let you know I had a conversation with blah blah, and they said that blah blah, political operative, is looking for dirt on you. Wanting to know who you've slept with, whether it's possible you've had a relationship with, insert politician's name here, they're really going after you this time. I think you need to take care. And that's usually the way that it happens. It'll be another journalist who lets you know that somebody is looking for something or that somebody is spreading a rumour about you, or it'll be a political contact that you have yourself who's going, hey, just thought you need to know that this is what's going on behind the scenes.
How do whisper campaigns and backgrounding function in Canberra's political machinery?
That's a pretty unsettling thing to hear. I mean, what was your reaction? I know that you said that this has happened before, but I mean, does it make you worry? Does it make you feel less safe?
Yeah, it's strange because, like, you know, most journalists have nothing to worry about, right? Like, I have not had any relationships with politicians or staffers or anyone within the political sphere. And even if I had, I would certainly declare it. What is the issue is that you do feel surveilled. You feel like you're being watched, that all of your conversations are being picked over for political gain. You start thinking about like maybe you've had a joke with somebody that could be misinterpreted if it's for like, you know, a wider audience or something like that. It gets to the point where, you know, you can have a very normal coffee with somebody in your work field. So I had a a coffee catch-up with a politician when I recently went interstate.
This is something very normal. It's part of my job to keep an eye on politics across the country, state and federal, just to know what is coming. And I get a call a couple of hours later saying, oh, by the way, you were spotted having this coffee with this male politician.
Yeah. That must be so unnerving.
Yeah, it is because, I mean, obviously you're in public. You've got nothing to hide. It's just a work conversation but it somehow gets back to whoever it is is like, you know, deciding that they've got a grudge against you and it feeds into this whole I am constantly under surveillance. And, again, I am not the only journalist that this happens to. It's just increasing in its viciousness and it's increasing in its frequency.
Let's talk about these political dirt units more broadly. I mean, what are they and how are they used against journalists, politicians and parties?
There's a couple of different types of dirt units. So there's political operatives and then there's the political parties themselves. Meanwhile, I note the Treasurer's Dirt Unit has been briefing... All mainstream political parties have what they call dirt units. The Prime Minister needs to stop worrying about getting more evidence in his dirt unit.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:10
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What warning did Amy Remeikis receive about political operatives digging for dirt?
0:10–2:18
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How do whisper campaigns and backgrounding function in Canberra's political machinery?
2:18–7:01
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What details did Amy describe about being surveilled and notified by contacts?
7:01–16:08
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