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Part 2: A warning from an undercover ASIO informant

05 Aug 2025

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When ASIO’s spy chief Mike Burgess delivered his annual threat assessment earlier this year, it was widely seen as a recruitment drive. He talked about the crucial role of human intelligence in ASIO's work – and sang the praises of the people who make huge sacrifices, in secret, to keep Australians safe. But while Burgess insisted informants collecting intelligence for ASIO are valued, ABC investigative reporter Sean Rubinsztein-Dunlop has revealed a different side to this dangerous work. Today, the reality of working with ASIO – and what can happen when you leave. This is part two of a two-part episode.    If you haven’t yet, go back and listen to Part 1: The spiritual leader of Sydney’s pro-ISIS network.   If you enjoy 7am, the best way you can support us is by making a contribution at 7ampodcast.com.au/support.   Socials: Stay in touch with us on Instagram Guest: Investigative reporter for the ABC Sean Rubinsztein-Dunlop Photo: Sissy Reyes, Four Corners See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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